Kto sa snaží o bábo od marca 2012?
tentomesiac nam to nevyslo dufam sa to co najskor podari 🙂
Stručné zhrnutie
- Sledovanie ovulácie pomocou ovulačných testov (RapidClear, GS Mamatest10), merania bazálnej teploty a pozorovania konzistencie hlienu pomáha identifikovať plodné dni a plánovať pohlavný styk v optimálnom čase.
- Pár metód odporúčaných v diskusii pre podporu plodnosti zahŕňa vyšetrenia na ureaplazmu/mykoplazmu/chlamýdie, folikulometriu/sono na potvrdenie ovulácie a krvné vyšetrenie HCG na včasné zistenie tehotenstva.
- V diskusii sa odporúčali doplnky a bylinné prípravky používané pri plánovaní tehotenstva: Femibion, kyselina listová, zinok, vitamín E, alchemilka, MACA a ľanové semienka; účinok na rýchlejšie otehotnenie je v diskusii uvádzaný ako nejednoznačný.
Q: Ako správne merať bazálnu teplotu a čo z nej viem vyčítať?
A: Meranie sa robí ihneď po prebudení v rovnakom čase, ideálne každý deň; podľa pôrodnej asistentky v diskusii pri pravidelnom 28‑dňovom cykle ovulácia nastáva okolo 13.–14. dňa a po ovulácii sa bazálna teplota zvyčajne zvýši (v diskusii bol príklad 36,2 → 36,5–36,7 °C; v pôvodnom príspevku bola spomenutá aj formulácia „3–5 stupňov“, ktorú autorka následne konkretizovala).
Q: Kedy a ako interpretovať ovulačné testy?
A: Ovulačné testy prúžkové (napr. RapidClear, GS Mamatest10) ukazujú „dve čiarky“ pri pozitívnom výsledku; podľa diskusie sú vhodné dni pred a v deň pozitívneho testu, pričom spermie môžu prežiť v maternici 3–5 dní a vajíčko je životaschopné maximálne ~24 hodín.
Q: Ako dlho trvá návrat plodnosti po vysadení hormonálnej antikoncepcie alebo po odstránení Mireny?
A: Skúsenosti v diskusii sa líšili: niektoré ženy otehotneli hneď po vysadení antikoncepcie, iné čakali niekoľko mesiacov až rok; jedna lekárka v diskusii uviedla, že v prvom mesiaci po vybratí Mireny je na 90 % šanca, že sa to nepodarí.
Q: Ktoré vyšetrenia riešiť pri dlhšom neúspechu otehotnieť?
A: V diskusii sa odporúčali vyšetrenia na ureaplazmu, mykoplazmu a chlamýdie, folikulometria/sono na sledovanie folikulov a ovulácie a krvné testy HCG; v praxi gynekológ určí ďalšie testy po zhodnotení anamnézy a doby snaženia.
Q: Aké vitamíny a bylinky sa spomínali pri plánovaní tehotenstva?
A: V diskusii boli spomenuté Femibion, kyselina listová, zinok, vitamín E, pitie alchemilky počas prvých 15 dní cyklu, MACA a ľanové (lanové) semienka ako podporné prípravky.
Q: Ako sledovať a interpretovať cervikálny hlien a čípek pri určovaní plodných dní?
A: Plodný hlien je podľa diskusie „ako vaječný bielok“ – priesvitný, vláčny a ťahavý; odporúčalo sa sledovať konzistenciu hlienu a polohu/pevnosť čípku v kombinácii s meraním BT a ovulačnými testami.
Závery z diskusie
Zhoda
- Sledovanie ovulácie (ovulačné testy, meranie bazálnej teploty, sledovanie hlienu) sa v diskusii považuje za užitočný spôsob, ako nájsť plodné dni.
- Spermia môže podľa diskusie prežiť v maternici 3–5 dní a vajíčko je životaschopné približne 24 hodín.
- Po vysadení hormonálnej antikoncepcie sú skúsenosti rôzne; môže to byť okamžité otehotnenie, ale aj mesiace čakania.
Sporné názory
- Zvýšenie bazálnej teploty po ovulácii: niektoré príspevky uvádzali zvýšenie o „3–5 stupňov“ (pôvodné vyjadrenie), iné účastníčky pripomínali, že reálne ide o 0,1–0,5 °C a menšie rozdiely (0,1–0,2 °C) môžu byť stále relevantné.
- Interpretácia slabšej druhej čiarky na tehotenskom teste: niektoré ženy považujú slabú čiarku za skutočné tehotenstvo, iné ju označujú za „mikroduch“ alebo falošný výsledok.
- Vplyv orgazmu na vyvolanie ovulácie: v diskusii sa objavila zmienka o spontánnej/ predčasnej ovulácii súvisiacej s orgazmom, ale tento názor bol prezentovaný bez odborného konsenzu.
Otvorené otázky
- Po akej dobe intenzívneho snaženia (mesiace) by mala žena vyhľadať gynekológa na komplexné vyšetrenia?
- Aký je reálny prínos byliniek a doplnkov (alchemilka, MACA, zinok, vitamín E, ľanové semiačka) pri zrýchľovaní otehotnenia?
- Ako spoľahlivo rozlíšiť rané tehotenské „mikroduchy“ od negatívneho výsledku a kedy opakovať tehotenský test?
Spomenuté značky a firmy
RapidClear, Mamatest, GS Mamatest10, Femibion, Mirena, Dr.Max, Tesco, FertilityFriend, Modry koník, Korzár (spisskanovaves.korzar.sme.sk)
Spomenuté produkty a metódy
bazálna teplota (BBT), ovulačné testy prúžkové (RapidClear, Mamatest), Femibion, kyselina listová, zinok, vitamín E, alchemilka, MACA, ľanové semienka, utrogestan (spýtané), folikulometria, ultrazvukové vyšetrenie (sono), krvné HCG vyšetrenie, testy na ureaplazmu/mykoplazmu/chlamýdie, kyretáž (kyret), vysadenie HAK, odstránenie Mireny, sledovanie cervikálneho hlienu, sledovanie polohy čípku, sledovanie 28‑dňového cyklu, sledovanie ovulácie pomocou ovulačných testov
Miesta a osoby
Orava, Námestovo, Dolný Kubín, Karviná, Spišská Nová Ves
Dievcence, posielam vam opat moje tehu virusiky - momentalne su velice kvalitne, kedze mam brucho ako hroch a je zo mna prava tehula - gula 😀 😀 😀
Nech sa paci:
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😉 Chytajte 😉
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Mate to aj s kopancami od maleho...lebo od rana sa cini =)))
aj odomna mate, ale ktora nechcete lezat cele tehu, tak radsej nechytajte 😅 😉
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a pridávam samozrejme všetky snažilky 🙂
@alicek14 23.1. baran Alica
@sam1234 2.2. strelec
@zora256 5.2. baran Zora -10mesiacov
@tusinka 8.2. baran , snaž.12mesiacov
@fidka21 váhy, 8-12.2.
@hana2626 10.2. rak
@jeackynka 14.2.. baran
@radka1303 14.2. ryby Radka -10mesiacov
@ellis21 15.2.váhy Elenka-5mesiacov
@linda555 15.2. panna , 6mesiacov
@petronellynka 16-17.2. blíženci
Tieto babule si potrebujú od snažilkovania trochu oddýchnuť a nabrať silu ale stále sú tu s nami:
@ataner81 február 2013 panna Renka budúca mamina- 1rok
@hanya1 lev rok 2013 -momentálne pauzičkuje, no čoskoro je opäť s nami
@simonkato momentálne oddychujúca no nádej nestrácajúca snažilka -2roky a 6mesiacov
@drobca07 baran Ivka naše nikdy nevzdávajúce sa koníkové slniečko a budúca minimálne dvojnásobná mamička -10rokov
@leonetka baran, ďalšia budúca maminka, momentálne oddychujúca snažilka
@renitri Ahoj!Moc držkám palčeky aby bolo všetko ok a srdiečko bilo ako zvonček 😉 a potom daj aj sono fotku sem 🙂Nech sa pokocháme drobčekom 🙂
@fidka21 Ahoj!Veď neboj ja keď prídem k ženskému toho 11-tého budem sa pítať veľa a na všetko čo s tým súvisí 😀,len nak sa mi ms dovtedy skončí a hlavne nech ma už nenaťahuje 😠 .Robí mi to nervy,len,že na testoch nič a ms nie a nie prísť....A to som už 34dc a to už zajtra bude 10deň ovd vysadenia Duphastonu a tých 5 dní sa mi už nechce čakať na 39dc ja už chcem sa ďalej snažiť :-/.
@seraa Ahoj!Ja som Duphaston brala pred tehu až 6mesiacov keď som ostala tehotná so synom,teraz som ho brala 10mesiac.a ak lekár uzná budem aj 11 cyklus brať,som zvedavá čo mi povie toho 11.2.,lebo ma nebaví,že každý 2 mesiac a to len od novembra tak mám,že mi chodí na 39dc a ten druhý mesiac by zas prišiel na 28dc a takto sa mi to strieda a to mi chodila pred tým do 32dc mesačne. :-/.Ja neviem od pôrodu mám viac ťažkostí než pred ním...
@horseshoe
@typa
@janka9900 ĎAkujem babule,kiežby ma už nachytali a tie testy už konečne utorok aj niečo ukázali,lebo aj dnes boli negatívne 😢 .A akosi ma k večeru bolelo podbruško a 2večere som bola nafúknutá ale zakaždý to prejde do rána,tak už fakt neviem čo si myslieť a prsia stále citlivé :-/.Ja už chcem tie testíky z //,alebo nak ma ms nenaťahuje už a nech navštívy,hočo len nak môžem už tento cyklus nejako ukončiť.
@ellis21 Ahoj!Ja som len raz tak krvácala na 13dc a to z dôvodu polycystického vaječníka vtedy sa mi očistil,čiže prasklo veľa folikulov naraz a od vtedy nemám polycystický vaječník,len nechápem prečo mám posunutý cyklus na 39dc,čiže mám iste pozdejšie ovulku z toho vaječníka,ináč si to neviem vysvetliť ☹.A neboj ako Ti tu drobca 07 písala presne tak to je buď silná ovulka,alebo cievka,či ako v mojom prípade hromadné praskanie folikulov :-/.
aj ja si par tehu zoberiem ak mozem 😀 😀 bodaj by to zabralo cary mary fuk fuk 😀 😀
@fidka21 Veď to moja,že zas ak by som bola teplý kúpeľ nie je dobrý aby nedošlo k potratu,ale tak už si každý druhý deň dávam aj teplý kúpeľ nie horúci a stále nič ako píšem aj tie bolesti viac menej prídu večer a prejdú do rána :-/,tak len dúfam.že čím skôr buď dôjde alebo aj testy sa umúdria a ukážu aj druhú čiarku.A čo sa týka lekára,tak moc dúfam,že poradí už niečo.Alebo nak dá niečo iné myslím lieky.A čo sa týka vína mi nepíjame alkohol,nemáme v lásky nič horkého,s príchuťou alkoholu 😝
@horseshoe Veľmi pekne ďakujem verím,že u čoskoro sa podarí,kiežby to už bolo na ceste 😔
@typa Veľmi pekne ďakujem 🙂Si mylá,aj si to prajem najviac🙂A aj tebe všetko dobré a ako sa máš?
No tak mám novinu, práce som dostala výpoveď. Neviem čo mám na to napísať, cítim sa divne, je to zvláštny pocit, ale neviem či dorý alebo zlý. Neviem si to predstaviť, že zrazu budem doma. No som nejaká zmätená, neviem to ani napísať. 🙄
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@fidka21
@drobca07 veď to, že včera mi nič nepovedal len aby som si to vždy nejak vyriešila s detmi a nebola toľk na očr a dnes si ma zavolal a povedal, že si to rozmyslel. Dal mi na výber, buď odídem hneď a dá mi jedno odstupné alebo tu budem ešte dva mesiace. No ja nemám chuť tu sedieť. Je mi s toho zle. ☹
tu som tu som, posielam 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
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@typa ďakujem ti moja, no ja si hovorím každý mesiac, že sa nebudem sledovať a vždy od toho 13DC sa riešim. Tak teraz sa snažím tie myšlienky potláčať. NO NEDARÍ SAAAA 😠