English speaking mums from anywhere in the world 🙂
Okaaaay ladies, here we go! 🙂
Stručné zhrnutie
- Rodičia využívajú fóra (ModryKonik), weby (helpforenglish.cz, mamtalent.sk) a život v anglicky hovoriacom prostredí (UK, Northern Ireland, Oslo) na precvičovanie angličtiny a zdieľanie praktických rád.
- Bežné praktické témy sú detské alergie (príklad: žihľavka/hives po neznámom spúšťači), spánkové a stravovacie rutiny a otázky škôlok; riešenia zahŕňajú návštevu ER, používanie nosovej odsávačky (manual alebo „hoover“ verzia) a platené i štátne škôlky s uvedenými cenami.
- Diskutujúce matky popisujú administratívne a sociálne otázky pri živote v zahraničí vrátane materskej dovolenky (v UK uvádzaná 1 rok, posledné 3 mesiace neplatené), rozdielov v zdravotnej starostlivosti a problémov s bývaním a nákupom nehnuteľností v UK.
Najčastejšie otázky
Q: Ktoré weby alebo zdroje z diskusie pomáhajú precvičovať angličtinu pre matky?
A: Uvedené zdroje sú helpforenglish.cz (spomínaná súťaž a tričko) a mamtalent.sk (sekcia „Bublinkové rozprávočky“ s detskými príbehmi), pričom hlavné komunitné miesto je ModryKonik.
Q: Kde nájsť anglické pesničky a rozprávky pre deti podľa diskusie?
A: Diskutujúce odporúčajú YouTube a televízne kanály Jim Jam a Minimax, konkrétne spomínané pesničky sú „Gracie Lou“ a detské videá s Thomas & Friends; tiež sú zdieľané linky na mamtalent.sk s rozprávkami.
Q: Aké sú odhadované náklady na škôlku podľa skúseností v diskusii?
A: Spomínané sumy sú približne 115 £/týždeň/ dieťa pre niektoré kurzy/škôlky a približne 750–800 £/mesiac za súkromnú celodennú škôlku; štátna škôlka (school nursery) sa v diskusii uvádza ako financovaná štátom (bez priameho mesačného poplatku).
Q: Ako funguje materská dovolenka v UK podľa účastníčok diskusie?
A: V diskusii sa uvádza, že materská dovolenka v UK býva 1 rok, pričom posledné približne 3 mesiace môžu byť neplatené; jedna účastníčka uviedla, že dostávala materskú z UK do 9 mesiacov a následne sumy 256 € do 20 mesiacov a 190 € mesačne do 3 rokov (toto sú skúsenosti konkrétnej účastníčky).
Q: Pomôže presťahovanie do anglicky hovoriacej krajiny rýchlemu zlepšeniu angličtiny?
A: Áno; viac účastníčok priamo uviedlo, že život v anglicky hovoriacom prostredí (UK, Northern Ireland, Liverpool, Oslo, atď.) prinútil denne komunikovať a výrazne zrýchlil zlepšenie angličtiny.
Q: Aké praktické pomôcky do starostlivosti o choré dieťa sa spomínali?
A: Diskutujúce spomínali manuálnu nosovú odsávačku a „hoover“ verziu odsávačky hlienov, túžbu po rýchlom prístupe na ER pri alergických reakciách a domáce rutinné riešenia (napr. upokojenie dieťaťa hudbou alebo obľúbenými rozprávkami).
Závery z diskusie
Zhoda
- Fóra a kontakt s anglicky hovoriacim prostredím pomáhajú zlepšovať angličtinu rýchlejšie než samostatné štúdium doma.
- Škôlky a starostlivosť o deti sú častým zdrojom stresu a nákladov; spomínané sumy zahŕňajú 115 £/týždeň a 750–800 £/mesiac pre súkromnú starostlivosť.
- Materská dovolenka v UK je vo väčšine popísaných skúseností 1 rok s čiastkovými neplatenými obdobiami.
Sporné názory
- Miesto na výchovu dieťaťa: niektoré účastníčky preferujú UK kvôli príležitostiam a sociálnemu systému, iné preferujú Slovensko kvôli pocitu bezpečia, kvalitnejšej zdravotnej starostlivosti a rodinnému zázemiu.
- Hodnotenie britskej zdravotnej starostlivosti: niektoré príspevky kritizujú prístup GP a administratívu (nedorobené testy, povrchné odporúčania), iné opisujú pozitívne skúsenosti s lekármi a nemocnicami.
Otvorené otázky
- Ako zaručiť zachovanie slovenčiny u dieťaťa vyrastajúceho v anglickom prostredí bez straty plynulosti?
- Ako vybrať cenovo dostupnú a kvalitnú škôlku pri obmedzenom rozpočte v rôznych krajinách (UK vs SK)?
- Ako koordinovať materské dávky a nároky pri práci v zahraničí a presune medzi systémami (UK, SK, Nórsko)?
Spomenuté značky a firmy
helpforenglish.cz, mamtalent.sk, ModryKonik, eBay, BRIO, BIGJIGS, Thomas & Friends, Furby, Jim Jam, Minimax, Butlins, Orange, Tesco, Belfast Airport
Spomenuté produkty a metódy
Thomas train set, Thomas tričko, Thomas bed spread, Thomas pyjamas, Thomas sippy cup, BRIO, BIGJIGS, Furby (hračka), Igloo Gloo (detská pesnička/hračka), Gracie Lou (pesnička), manuálna nosová odsávačka, „hoover“ nosová odsávačka, denník/scrapbook pre dieťa, English classes, playgroup, childminder, private nursery, state nursery, shared ownership (housing), triple test (prenatálne vyšetrenie), English competition
Miesta a osoby
Kosice, Northern Ireland, Belfast, Liverpool, Oslo, Norway, New Zealand, Manchester, Golders Green, North Wales, Flint, Brezno, Liptov, Banska Bystrica, Stara Lubovna, Tvrdosin, London, Egypt, UK, Slovakia
@briketa well, Im mum-to-be and from the very beginning, i talk to Julian in english. his father should do that too. My mum is supposed to talk to him in hungarian language and other people in slovak. But im pretty scared of that. I found out there are so many words i cannot translate... mostly baby themes.
as for kids songs and rhymes, i dont know any of them even in slovak. :/
any idea where can I find them?
thank youuu 🙂
@teleranka
You have to be confident, not scared. Do as you think will be the best for your little one.
Actually if you really speak English well, you do not look for translations. You have to think in English too. That way you will not miss any words from Slovak language. If it will come the point that you don`t know something, you can always ask here.
http://www.parents.com/baby/sleep/tips/nursery-...
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=rhymes+and+...
http://www.kididdles.com/lyrics/lullabies.html
etc., etc. ....
@teleranka That is a specific problem of parents speaking to their kids in a language that is not native to them... People for whom English is a second language rarely know words that are used in communication with children. What you can do is try to improve your vocabulary specifically in this area before the baby is born and still continue with this effort afterwards and by the time your baby starts talking you will master the language on a whole another level and will be able to name and describe things and events relevant to a baby. But it will not come in a day or so, so I would suggest starting as soon as possible... It is a difficult task to communicate with a child in a language that is not your native. You should look for rhymes, singsongs (I had to look these words up too), find out the names of various children´s fairytale characters, name children´s toys, foods, clothes, activities... so you are prepared for as many situations as can possibly occur...
Is your husband from English speaking country? That would make the situation much easier, because he could bring the "baby-talk" naturally. That way you could learn it very quickly too.
@teleranka May I ask you where do you live? Do you live in Slovakia or somewhere else, because I'm confused
😀 I can see in your profile that you're from Kosice,so why do you want to speak with your child in english ? This is your choice of course, but it's little bit weird in Slovakia 😀 😀 😀 Probably you have some plans to move abroad
😝 Anyway you can buy some children books as well it may helps.
You can improve your english (I don't want to say that your english is bad 😉 you know what I mean ) and learn children's ,,vocabulary" at once 😉
@zzuzana82 There´s plenty of people in Bratislava who practice this, speaking English to children, although they are not native English speakers... it is a way of introducing another language in the most natural way, instead of paying horrendous sums in helen doron and the like... They create an artificial bilingual family.. 🙂
@saza007 No, he is not. I`m the only one speaking Slovak to him, his whole environment is English (my husband is British and we live in USA) He has passive understanding and speaks to me back in English mixed with some Slovakian words. He understands everything. Often we laugh with my husband, that he speaks better Spanish than SVK.
In the school and by homework I speak English to him, at home, at the playground and around our friends I speak Slovak. We don`t have any Slovak, nor Czech speaking friends around us.
I don`t push him. He is not lost when we are visiting my relatives, he can find his way out to express himself too.
My mother and my brother are fluent in English so we really don`t have any problem with communication, even Neal staying there without us.
We put him to French preschool when he was 2.5 for two years (after the person moved back to FR) and now when I ask him something in French he obviously does n`t understand. At that young age as quickly they learn they forget quickly too.
@zzuzana82 Helen Doron is a language school that acts as they invented passive listening (child learns by listening to CDs with English songs and so on), I´ve only visited one lesson, the teacher talks to children, shows them pictures, I considered the techniques just regular things that any person who has kids would do to teach the kid English, but they charge like if they were giving you gold. It is a widespread phenomena that people want kids to start learning as soon as possible and I think these schools abuse the trend.. that´s why I said "helen doron and the like"
@briketa actually, no. He´s not from English speaking country. @zzuzana82 I live in Slovakia, but I have family in the USA and plan to travel there as often as possible.
Well, my english used to be much much better couple of yrs ago. Now I have nobody to talk to, except from mails and written communication, which is not very good for my pronunciation.
Some people I know did find it STRANGE when I told them about my plan to talk to baby in english. They were like what??? why? u live in slovakia, kid is gonna live here as well for at least couple of years, the can teach him english in the school.
They just dont understand it and make me feel like im weird or something.
hello everybody..i came across this topic and found it very interesting. at the mmt i live in kosice and i am desperately looking for native english speaking family/families in kosice. i have two little girls and i am practising the method one parent-one language but it is very hard as i am native slovak speaker. i am the only person who speaks english to my girls and i would love to find somebody else with whom they could speak English too. can anyone help me with this please? i would be very grateful. my english is also getting worse so it would be good for me as well. thanks a lot.
Hi ladies, I am sooo happy I´ve finally found this topic... I LOVE English language and would love to teach my little one as well... I am trying hard to speak English to Olivia and must say many times I find myself speaking Slovak... 😒 I wanted to ask
@teleranka how are you getting on with speaking English to your little one?

@diid "Practice makes perfect" is very common idiom in American English. What are you talking about?