English speaking mums from anywhere in the world 🙂
Okaaaay ladies, here we go! 🙂
Stručné zhrnutie
- Rodičia využívajú fóra (ModryKonik), weby (helpforenglish.cz, mamtalent.sk) a život v anglicky hovoriacom prostredí (UK, Northern Ireland, Oslo) na precvičovanie angličtiny a zdieľanie praktických rád.
- Bežné praktické témy sú detské alergie (príklad: žihľavka/hives po neznámom spúšťači), spánkové a stravovacie rutiny a otázky škôlok; riešenia zahŕňajú návštevu ER, používanie nosovej odsávačky (manual alebo „hoover“ verzia) a platené i štátne škôlky s uvedenými cenami.
- Diskutujúce matky popisujú administratívne a sociálne otázky pri živote v zahraničí vrátane materskej dovolenky (v UK uvádzaná 1 rok, posledné 3 mesiace neplatené), rozdielov v zdravotnej starostlivosti a problémov s bývaním a nákupom nehnuteľností v UK.
Najčastejšie otázky
Q: Ktoré weby alebo zdroje z diskusie pomáhajú precvičovať angličtinu pre matky?
A: Uvedené zdroje sú helpforenglish.cz (spomínaná súťaž a tričko) a mamtalent.sk (sekcia „Bublinkové rozprávočky“ s detskými príbehmi), pričom hlavné komunitné miesto je ModryKonik.
Q: Kde nájsť anglické pesničky a rozprávky pre deti podľa diskusie?
A: Diskutujúce odporúčajú YouTube a televízne kanály Jim Jam a Minimax, konkrétne spomínané pesničky sú „Gracie Lou“ a detské videá s Thomas & Friends; tiež sú zdieľané linky na mamtalent.sk s rozprávkami.
Q: Aké sú odhadované náklady na škôlku podľa skúseností v diskusii?
A: Spomínané sumy sú približne 115 £/týždeň/ dieťa pre niektoré kurzy/škôlky a približne 750–800 £/mesiac za súkromnú celodennú škôlku; štátna škôlka (school nursery) sa v diskusii uvádza ako financovaná štátom (bez priameho mesačného poplatku).
Q: Ako funguje materská dovolenka v UK podľa účastníčok diskusie?
A: V diskusii sa uvádza, že materská dovolenka v UK býva 1 rok, pričom posledné približne 3 mesiace môžu byť neplatené; jedna účastníčka uviedla, že dostávala materskú z UK do 9 mesiacov a následne sumy 256 € do 20 mesiacov a 190 € mesačne do 3 rokov (toto sú skúsenosti konkrétnej účastníčky).
Q: Pomôže presťahovanie do anglicky hovoriacej krajiny rýchlemu zlepšeniu angličtiny?
A: Áno; viac účastníčok priamo uviedlo, že život v anglicky hovoriacom prostredí (UK, Northern Ireland, Liverpool, Oslo, atď.) prinútil denne komunikovať a výrazne zrýchlil zlepšenie angličtiny.
Q: Aké praktické pomôcky do starostlivosti o choré dieťa sa spomínali?
A: Diskutujúce spomínali manuálnu nosovú odsávačku a „hoover“ verziu odsávačky hlienov, túžbu po rýchlom prístupe na ER pri alergických reakciách a domáce rutinné riešenia (napr. upokojenie dieťaťa hudbou alebo obľúbenými rozprávkami).
Závery z diskusie
Zhoda
- Fóra a kontakt s anglicky hovoriacim prostredím pomáhajú zlepšovať angličtinu rýchlejšie než samostatné štúdium doma.
- Škôlky a starostlivosť o deti sú častým zdrojom stresu a nákladov; spomínané sumy zahŕňajú 115 £/týždeň a 750–800 £/mesiac pre súkromnú starostlivosť.
- Materská dovolenka v UK je vo väčšine popísaných skúseností 1 rok s čiastkovými neplatenými obdobiami.
Sporné názory
- Miesto na výchovu dieťaťa: niektoré účastníčky preferujú UK kvôli príležitostiam a sociálnemu systému, iné preferujú Slovensko kvôli pocitu bezpečia, kvalitnejšej zdravotnej starostlivosti a rodinnému zázemiu.
- Hodnotenie britskej zdravotnej starostlivosti: niektoré príspevky kritizujú prístup GP a administratívu (nedorobené testy, povrchné odporúčania), iné opisujú pozitívne skúsenosti s lekármi a nemocnicami.
Otvorené otázky
- Ako zaručiť zachovanie slovenčiny u dieťaťa vyrastajúceho v anglickom prostredí bez straty plynulosti?
- Ako vybrať cenovo dostupnú a kvalitnú škôlku pri obmedzenom rozpočte v rôznych krajinách (UK vs SK)?
- Ako koordinovať materské dávky a nároky pri práci v zahraničí a presune medzi systémami (UK, SK, Nórsko)?
Spomenuté značky a firmy
helpforenglish.cz, mamtalent.sk, ModryKonik, eBay, BRIO, BIGJIGS, Thomas & Friends, Furby, Jim Jam, Minimax, Butlins, Orange, Tesco, Belfast Airport
Spomenuté produkty a metódy
Thomas train set, Thomas tričko, Thomas bed spread, Thomas pyjamas, Thomas sippy cup, BRIO, BIGJIGS, Furby (hračka), Igloo Gloo (detská pesnička/hračka), Gracie Lou (pesnička), manuálna nosová odsávačka, „hoover“ nosová odsávačka, denník/scrapbook pre dieťa, English classes, playgroup, childminder, private nursery, state nursery, shared ownership (housing), triple test (prenatálne vyšetrenie), English competition
Miesta a osoby
Kosice, Northern Ireland, Belfast, Liverpool, Oslo, Norway, New Zealand, Manchester, Golders Green, North Wales, Flint, Brezno, Liptov, Banska Bystrica, Stara Lubovna, Tvrdosin, London, Egypt, UK, Slovakia
I lived in ireland for a while and my son Felipe was only 18monthes old when we moved back to Martin... i really wanted him to speak english, but as we moved he had some kind of barrier or something...everybody used only our language and he was confused..he didnt want to speak at all...
so we didnt used english...but now he is almost 4, so im ready and he is as well.......i hope 😀
I am an American living in Bratislava. Any Americans or locals who would like to meet in Kramare?
@kuduaditsuh Bratislava is a bit far for me, but I'd definately like to chat here if you like...
@matul oh I sooo did add your name with an @ 😉 because I only clicked "reply" 😀
@kuduaditsuh I would soo like to meet, but my kid is almost 7, they would hardly have anything in common with yours 😉
@matul sorry for replying so late, i must have missed the notification. I speak to my LO exclusively in eglish. His dad too. My english is still not as good as I want it to be, but i think its getting better. Did u speak to olivia in ebglish since the very beginning?
If we get a chance to meet someday, we both can speak english to our LOs. What sre your friends saying about you talking to child in english? Do they support you? Is there anyone else speaking english to Olivia?
@teleranka hiya, no probs, I do miss on some notifications sometimes too... I must admit, I do not speak solely English to Olivia, I must improve... Her Dad is not as good at English as myself so we speak English together only once in a while, when we're talking about not very important stuff, but when discussing serious issues we always speak Slovak :-/ I MUST improve, I'd like her to love English as much as I do (and speak it)...
I have one couple that we're friends with and they are Slovak girl and Canadian man, but we don't visit very often... I'd like to meet with you, it will be good to speak English with someone else... I must say you're doing a great job when managing speaking English only to your LO.
What do your friends and family say to you about speaking English to your son??
When I first checked this topic, I noticed @briketa added some links for English songs, etc. but I cannot find it anymore... Could you guys please repost? Thanks a lot!!
@matul
@teleranka hi girls, thanx teleranka for liking me, it helped to notice sth is happening here..teleranka -where r u from? it is really great u r managing to speak to ur child english only..i try very hard i think but sometimes i use slovak words :( matul - i have noticed you are from Hrasovik..do you come to kosice often or not really? because i live in Furca which is quite near Hrasovik .. perhaps we could meet sometimes..how old is ur child? 🙂
do you know any native english-american speakers here in Kosice? i would love to meet some families like that
@makarion Hi there, yes, I live close to Furca, I often go to nearby woods with a bike and my little one. Meeting is a good idea, but it would be quite a challenge to find something incommon for our children 🙂 My Olivia is 8 months old and hardly crawls yet 😉 I do know some english speaking foreigners but mostly without children...
Do you speak English to your children?
@kuduaditsuh I live in Petrzalka, but I often go to Zelezna Studienka with my daughter, so if you like, we can meet there sometime.
@matul haha of course none of his toys can speak. Im using different voices for every single toy. We are having lots of fun, cause there is always something funny that comes to my mind. Just like yesterday, babys favorite toy, Tigger (winnie the pooh) had suggested to trade eeyore's tail for some money so he (tigger) can bounce with my kid. Its kind of stupid i know. But tigger is bouncing on his tail and always "complain" about the fact that my baby boy doesnt have any tail. Now he found the way to buy him a tail from eeyore.
Tigger is also trying to convince my son to eat 😉
Hey @matul. Sorry for not responding earlier. Thank you for your offer 🙂 I've been quite busy so I don't have much time to go online, but I'll keep you in mind 🙂
Hi @sharlotta 🙂 That would be great. It's a bit short notice, but how about next Sunday, some time in the afternoon?
@eaka I appreciate the thought anyway ;)
@kuduaditsuh I'm sorry, my mother-in-law is coming to visit us and she is staying till next Thursday so we can meet after that, if it's ok. 😉
Hi girls - For those living in Slovakia. Do you speak with your little one's in English or how are you teaching them? We have books and DVD's which my little one is interested in but when I try to speak to her she throws a tantrum. ☹ She really doesn't like it. I would like it to become natural to her - she'll thank me later when she doesn't have to learn it at school ... I think anyway. Any advice?
@nextik In my oppinion...we shouldn't teach our children English unless it's necessary (living in English speaking environment) There is a lot of time to start later, when they are prepared, and they understand the structure of their own (native) language. The ideal start to learn foreign or second language is around 10. When children start learning second language at the age of 10, they are still able to reach native like proficiency. So...I'm not going to teach my children English at all. I'll leave it to professional teachers or, ideally to the natives.
I strongly recommend a book from Lightbown and Spada "How languages are learned." 😉
@teleranka hey, I just came around these fantastic books in English - do you know any of them?
I am in Bratislava. We lived in the US for a while and I wanted my daughter to learn the language, but as we moved to Czech r. I stopped speaking English to her, as there was no one to teach her Slovak and I couldn´t stand the idea of my child not speaking Slovak. So we´re starting English again now that she started going to school.