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Stručné zhrnutie
- Dobrovoľné nemocenské poistenie treba mať zaplatené minimálne 270 dní pred termínom pôrodu, inak môže vzniknúť nároková medzera pri vyplácaní materskej; v diskusii uviedli príklad zvýšeného maximálneho vymeriavacieho základu z 1003,09 € na 1084,69 € a mesačný odvod 4,4 % z doplatenej sumy 336,69 € bol 14,81 €/mesiac.
- Pri snažení o dieťa účastníčky odporúčali suplementy kyseliny listovej, konkrétne Femibion800 s metafolínom, a spomínali bežné voľnopredajné prípravky ako Tantum Verde pri bolestiach hrdla.
- Ako techniky sledovania plodnosti boli v diskusii spomínané ovulačné testy (rovnako silné dve čiarky = LH vrchol), meranie bazálnej teploty (BT) a „ovulačný mikroskop“ na sliny; tiež sa riešili IVF a dôsledky predchádzajúcej sterilizácie.
Q: Ako funguje pripoistenie na nemocenské a aké podmienky treba splniť pre materskú?
A: Na Sociálnej poisťovni v diskusii odporúčali prihlásiť sa na dobrovoľné nemocenské poistenie najmenej 270 dní pred termínom pôrodu; ak je človek zamestnaný a platí nemocenské, štandardná materská je 55 % z hrubej mzdy, pripoistením sa dá dosiahnuť max. suma spomínaná v diskusii približne 531 € (16 000 Sk).
Q: Ktoré vitamíny alebo doplnky užívať pri snažení o dieťa?
A: V diskusii odporúčali kyselinu listovú, konkrétne Femibion800 s metafolínom; jedna účastníčka uviedla, že užívala Femibion dva mesiace a iná spomínala značku MedPharma pre základnú kyselinu listovú.
Q: Kedy začať platiť dobrovoľné nemocenské poistenie, koľko sa platí?
A: V diskusii radili začať platiť čo najskôr, ideálne niekoľko mesiacov pred plánovaným otehotnením; príkladný výpočet v diskusii: 4,4 % z rozdielu vymeriavacieho základu 336,69 € = 14,81 €/mesiac, diskutované bolo aj percento z minima (spomínané 8900 Sk → 4,4 % ≈ 220 Sk ako orientačný údaj).
Q: Aké testy a metódy použiť na sledovanie ovulácie?
A: V diskusii odporúčali ovulačné testy (LH testy, dve rovnako silné čiarky indikujú vrchol ovulácie), meranie bazálnej teploty (BT) a ovulačný mikroskop na sliny ako metódy na určenie plodných dní.
Q: Sú antibiotiká OSPAMOX bezpečné, ak môžem byť tehotná?
A: V diskusii bola spomenutá preskripcia OSPAMOX, otázka bezpečnosti v ranom tehotenstve zostala nezodpovedaná a odporúčali konzultovať konkrétny prípad s lekárom; jedna účastníčka poznamenala, že pred úplným napojením placenty na krvný obeh lieky teoreticky menej ovplyvnia embryonálny obeh, ale nejde o odborné medicínske potvrdenie.
Q: Čo robiť, ak je žena sterilizovaná a chce ďalšie dieťa?
A: Diskusia uvádzala, že po sterilizácii môže byť prirodzené otehotnenie nemožné a často sa v takých prípadoch rieši IVF; v téme bola konkrétne spomenutá konizácia krčka a následná potreba IVF.
Závery z diskusie
Zhoda
- Dobrovoľné nemocenské poistenie sa v diskusii považuje za užitočné pri plánovanom materskom príspevku a odporúča sa ho platiť dopredu.
- Pri snažení účastníčky často odporúčali užívanie kyseliny listovej, konkrétne Femibion800 s metafolínom.
- Ovulačné testy a meranie bazálnej teploty sú bežné odporúčané metódy na sledovanie plodných dní.
Sporné názory
- HAK (antikoncepcia): jedna skupina v diskusii považuje HAK za vhodnú pri akné a ľahšiu formu ochrany, druhá skupina tvrdí, že HAK „hormóny“ zhoršujú zdravie a spôsobujú komplikácie pri snažení.
- Časovanie pohlavného styku: niektoré účastníčky tvrdia, že prestávky medzi stykmi zlepšujú „regeneráciu“ spermií, iné uviedli, že taká pauza nebola pri nich rozhodujúca.
Otvorené otázky
- Sú antibiotiká typu OSPAMOX bezpečné pri možnom veľmi skorom tehotenstve?
- Dá sa doplatiť alebo „dorovnať“ nemocenské poistenie spätne v prípade predčasného pôrodu, ak chýbajú dni?
- Sú skoré subjektívne príznaky (pichanie v podbrušku, mierny výtok) spoľahlivým indikátorom uhniezdenia embrya?
Spomenuté značky a firmy
Femibion, MedPharma, Rapid Clear, Tantum Verde, OSPAMOX, Modrý koník, Sociálna poisťovňa, MUDr. Fruhwald
Spomenuté produkty a metódy
Femibion800 s metafolínom, kyselina listová, MedPharma (kyselina listová), Tantum Verde, OSPAMOX, Rapid Clear (test), ovulačné testy (LH testy), meranie bazálnej teploty (BT), ovulačný mikroskop na sliny, IVF, sterilizácia, konizácia krčka, vyvolávacie injekcie, pupalkový olej (pupalka), alchemilka
Miesta a osoby
Miskolc, Bratislava, Košice, Banská Bystrica (BB), Rakúsko, Anglicko, MUDr. Fruhwald
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na viac si nespomynam 😀
groka diky za virusiky chytam ich si zlata 🙂
a ozaj vedela by si povedat kedy sa vam podarilo splodit ci pred pocas alebo po ovu?
myslim ze janulka sa neozvala
kkatka vcera som rozmyslala my sme mali sexik 4.12 co bolo dost na silu,ze muzovi som povedala pod rychlo nech to mame za sebou 😀 akoze bola som unavena takze rychlovka,a to vraj bola ovulacia takze ja som otehu 4.12 ale sexik bol aj 2 dni pred tym 3 dni po sebe do zadu cize takze vajko si mohli najst aj tie pred tym,takze ked to zhrniem,sex bol v den ovulky a to sme sa trafili presne teda so sexom a pred ovulkou 2 dni tiez a to 3 dni po sebe,chapes?lebo som to napisala ako blb
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/groka tu je graf,no ako tak pozeram tak sa mohli zadarit aj 5.12 to by uz aj sedelo vsetko na velkost baba ci tt
caute kocky, stale mam hadicu 🙂 http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2b45ed 😵 , idem citat 🙂
dzou 😀 a dakujem a inak co sa snivalo mne, uplne psycho, ale dam len vycuc... uz som vam spominala, ze vraj ked sa sniva o rybach, tak je zena tehu, tak mne sa snivalo, ze som niekde potrebovala ist na verejne zachody a vsetky boli hnusne a ovracane a proste lbleee 😕 a nasla som konecne jeden slusnejsi a v nom plavala bojovnica - neviem ci poznate tie rybky, su krasne farebne, tato bola nadherna zelenomodra, niekto tam bol so mnou, neviem kto a ze ju mam splachnut a ja ze no urcite a som ju zachranovala 😕 😀 😀 😀 😀 aha a bolo to niekde v zahranici a nie na SK a som este rozmyslala ako ju dostanem domov 😀 😀
ahoj katka, ahoj veronika 🙂 , ja a lucka a xena necakame 🙂
luciiii super 😵 , desiaty den je este skoro mozno aj zuzka z grafikov mala na desiaty den bielo a na dvanasty krasne kolajnicky 😉
ahoj nadenka 🙂 , jj ja s tebou necakam 😉
motylek fiiha aj ty mas predovulacnu kolajnicku 😉
xeni no dobre, ale sak ved nech nepride, nie 😅
grokaaa gratulujem 😵 😵 😵 😵
groka dik 😀 , prave sme vsetky otehu bez ohladu na den cyklu 😀 😀 😀 😀
groka dakujem 🙂 , vraj kolajnicky prinasaju stastie, ze 🙂 a inak nevie preco moj graf neukazuje mojkanie 😕 ja som to nerusila ale ako pozeram tvoj, mala som to tento mesiac uplne ako ty, ze ked bola ovula na osemnasty den, tak v den ovu, a potom 13,14,15 den no ty koksoooo groka preeeesne ako ty 😕 😅
jasne jarka pochopila som to neboj 🙂
miska ako tak pozeram aj ty to mas zaujimave a vyzera ti to dost dobre len tak dalej
miska a luci to chodite do akych grafikov ze mate taky prehlad? 😉
vcera som sa pytala na to meranie bt ale asi ste to prehliadli tak skusim este raz - je naozaj velmi dolezite, aby sa bt merala vzdy v rovnaky cas? nestaci, aby si mala len potrebny pocet hodin spanku?
zaujima ma to preto, lebo som normalne na vazkach ze zacnem merat, lebo mam taky pocit ze tu otehotneli len baby, ktore merali alebo zacali merat 😀 😀 😀 ja viem ze to znie sprosto ale statistika je jasna
no a cez tyzden vstavam dost skoro a cez vikend kvoli tomu nebudem vstavat o 6 😎
kocky kuk ten albumik na pervej stranke, co uz mame a planujeme kupit a su tam dve knizky od anne geddes, som ich videla v phanta rhei aj pre chlapceka aj dievcatko, uplne zlate som aj ukazovala poloviciakovi, ze take si raz kupime 🙂 , ale tfuj, tfuj, fuj, ked pride cas, nechcem nic zarieknut do buducnosti 🙂
kati dakujem 🙂 , to je tieto dni vzdy adrenalin pri merani teplotky 🙂 a inak babatko je najskor az o dva tyzdne od uhniezdenia napojene na krvny obeh matky, ze? Lebo po sviatkoch pijem pred zumbou red bull a to by sa nemalo..., kdyby neco...
kati grafy stastna 13 😉 a jj v presny cas - v rovnaky, ja si davam o siedmej rano a potome ste vzdy spim 🙂 , takze kludne si daj aj na tu siestu 😉 a aspon z merania zistits aky mas cyklus a kedy ovu 😉
miska kukla som tie knizky a je to krasa fakt
diky miska ale moc si ma nepotesila 🙂 teda s tym casom merania budem si to musiet este moc zvazit
a este mam jednu otazku k meraniu - viem podla teploty kedy sa blizi ovu? teplota klesne nejako viac nez bola alebo ako?
viem ze ste to tu uz pisali ale ja som tomu vtedy nevenovala moc pozornost bo som neplanovala merat 😎
a aj odomna baby
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Kati, tak vikendy mozes vynechat, prvy vikend nemusis merat, druhy skus merat, lebo okolo 14DC byva ovulka a po ovulke uz zase nemusis merat cez vikendy 😉 Podla BT nevies ze sa blizi ovu, mozes si prvy mesiac robit ovu testy, potom zistis kedy mas ovu a dalsi cyklus budes vediet, kedy mas intenzivne snazit 😉
Miska, pekna hadica 😉 Kedy chces testovat?
Miska pekna hadica!! 😀 🙂
My sme akurat konecne kupili oblek a vestu s viazankou na svadbu 😵 😵
oblek sme vylovili v peek and clopenburgu ci ako sa to pise, u huga bossa, a vesticku s viazankou v pierre cardin, mame trosku leskly, ale uplne ze stylovy 🙂 V tom sa moj chlap urcite v dave nestrati 🙂
Tak mi odlahlo, ze mame to zakladne 🙂
Katka ovu zistis az ked bola 😉 teploty su pred nou nizsie, ale mozu byt vselijake hore dolu alebo len dolu, ovu zistis ked uvidis prudsi narast teplot, a po troch dnoch ked budes mat vyssie teploty ti FF sam oznaci ovu na mieste s poslednymi nizkymi teplotkami 🙂
luci ku skuske sa nemienim vyjadrovat, lebo som tam nesla, ale to je na dlhsie 😒
proste som sa naucila a potom zistila ze tam chce pol knihy ktoru ani nespomenul a dal si to na novovytvorenu stranku o ktorej som nevedela 🙄 No nechajme tak 😉
kati, teplota klesne az po ovu, takze viac ti ukaze asi az druhy cyklus 😉 , resp. mozes skusit aj cikacie ovu testiky 🙂
tei diiik a prosim ta, das sem este tvoj grafik, chcem sa pozriet ako si ty mala hadicu, dakujem 😵
luci dik, az v pondelok, po desiatom dni, ak vydrzim 😀 a tiez teplotka 😅
veru aj ja myslim od vcera na janku 😕
tea posli foto obleku 😉 a k tej skuske, to je fakt nefer, to ba aj mna nastvalo 😠
ahoj tea aj tebe diky za TTT. a vidim ze intenzivne pripravy na svadbu su v plnom prude. takze zenich obleceny, uz aj obuty? a co nevesta? vy uz tusim mate aj miesto objednane. este nieco vam chyba?
a to co je za blba ten skusajuci? ja sice tiez ucim ale niektori to fakt prehanaju!
no luci super to su uz lepsie spravy pre mna spachtosku 😀 o tych vikendoch
aha takze vy viete len zhruba kedy sa ovu blizi podla skusenosti z predchadzajuceho merania? aha!!!
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2af28f
moja hadica bola nizka 🙂 ale ja som vzdy mavala nizsie teplotky
foto obleku samotneho? sak potom uvidite svadobny album, ved je to zachvilocku 😉
ten skusajuci je super chlapik, a ferovy, ale zjavne ho bavi zakladat si nove osobne stranky 😠 🙄
co sa tyka svadby, saty mam uz davno, aj skratene, len kupit topanky, ale nechcem speci na tych par minut, takze biele lodicky, len dam saty vycistit lebo su pokrkvane 😀
zenich si kupi cierne topanky, kamarat mojho draheho vyraba sperky tak nam pozicia obrucky, lebo my vlastne nechceme nosit, kedze kastiel je kamaratov tak len tam nabehneme a podame instrukcie, nech pripravia salonik na obrad a svadobny stol, dam im kto co bude papat info, lebo my sme mali pre kazdeho na vyber, tak kazdy ma ine, skocime na urad vybavit formalitky, v tn som objednana na vlasky na skusku, asi to tam aj ostane lebo je to tam vychvalovane, vizazistka ma skusobne nalici 13.1 tu v Ba len som este zvedava co si povie za cestu, stretnem sa s Bratranocm mojho draheho(fotograf) ktory nas bude fotit a dohodneme podrobnosti,mm ..
asi vsetko..vsera som skratila jedinu hudbu co chcem mat na obrade, je to penicka z disney aladina, moja srdcovka, v pomalsej verzii..
lucka
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