Iscare vo FN Martin. Máte niekto skúsenosti?
Ahoj, máte už niekto skúsenosti s novozaloženým centrom v Martinskej FN ?
Stručné zhrnutie
- ISCARE v Martine poskytuje asistovanú reprodukciu vrátane IUI, IVF a ICSI a sídli vo Fakultnej nemocnici Martin (pavilón č. 6).
- V ISCARE Martin pracuje MUDr. Stanislav Tomáš (uvádzaný ako doc./docent) a v tíme je embryologička p. Filová; centrum ponúka aj prenatálne kontroly po úspešnom IVF.
- Ceny a úhrady sú kombináciou hradených a doplatkových výkonov: stimulačný protokol a monitorovanie môžu byť bez poplatku, IUI bolo v diskusii spomenuté 75 €, a doplatky za nepreplácané IVF výkony sa uviedli okolo 465 € plus ~214 € za lieky.
Najčastejšie otázky
Q: Ako sa objednať na konzultáciu do ISCARE Martin?
A: Na konzultáciu sa objednáva telefonicky cez recepciu centra; používatelia hlásili voľné termíny do niekoľkých dní až dvoch týždňov podľa momentálneho záujmu.
Q: Čo si zobrať na prvú návštevu (konzultáciu) v centre asistovanej reprodukcie?
A: Zvyčajne treba priniesť gynekologickú kartu/odpis z dokumentácie a spermiogram partnera; niektorí odporúčajú mať aj aktuálne výsledky vyšetrení.
Q: Koľko stojí IUI v ISCARE Martin?
A: V diskusii jedna užívateľka uviedla, že IUI ju stálo 75 €; ceny sa môžu líšiť podľa použitia stimulácie injekciami.
Q: Ako dlho trvá schválenie žiadosti o hradené IVF poisťovňou?
A: V príspevkoch sa spomínalo čakanie na schválenie žiadosti približne 5–6 týždňov.
Q: Aké doplatky môžem očakávať pri IVF v ISCARE?
A: Jedna pacientka uviedla doplatok cca 465 € za nepreplácané úkony (predĺžená kultivácia, ICSI dvoch vajíčok, darcovstvo spermií) a cca 214 € za lieky; niektoré základné stimulačné protokoly a monitorovanie mali byť bez poplatku.
Q: Ktoré stimulačné preparáty sa v diskusii spomínali a aký je medzi nimi rozdiel?
A: Spomínané lieky: Bravelle, Gonal, Puregon, Menopur, Fostimon, Pregnyl, Decapeptyl, Synarel, Cetrotide, Diphereline; Bravelle je opísané ako urofolitropín (FSH získaný z moču menopauzálnych žien) a Gonal/Puregon sú drahšie čiastočne kvôli podávaniu formou pera.
Q: Robia v ISCARE Martin genetiku spermií alebo embryí?
A: V diskusii sa uvádzalo, že laboratórium rieši vyšetrenia fragmentácie DNA spermií a že možné je pred transferom genetické testovanie embryí, avšak tieto vyšetrenia sú finančne nákladné.
Závery z diskusie
Zhoda
- ISCARE Martin je lokalizované vo Fakultnej nemocnici Martin (pavilón č. 6) a poskytuje IUI, IVF, ICSI a prenatálne kontroly po úspechu.
- MUDr. Stanislav Tomáš je v diskusii pravidelne uvádzaný ako hlavný lekár centra a pacientky oceňujú prístup personálu a embryologičky p. Filovej.
- Niektoré administratívne a technické položky (stimulačný protokol, monitorovanie) môžu byť v centre poskytované bez priameho poplatku.
Sporné názory
- Niektoré pacientky považujú Helios a iné CAR za viac „strojové“ alebo komerčné, zatiaľ čo ISCARE popisujú ako ľudské a individuálne; alternatíva je zvažovať Helios vs. ISCARE podľa preferencie prístupu.
- Otázka potreby predoperačných vyšetrení (RTG pľúc) má protiľahlé názory: niektoré pediatra/centre to nevyžadujú, iné požadujú kompletné predoperačné zázemie.
Otvorené otázky
- Koľko presne budú stáť konkrétne nepreplácané procedúry (predĺžená kultivácia, ICSI, genetické testovanie) pre ďalších pacientov vzhľadom na individuálne potreby?
- Ako presne ISCARE v Martine postupuje pri prípadoch opakovaných zlyhaní embryonálneho vývoja a kedy odporúča darcovstvo spermií/vajíčok?
Spomenuté značky a firmy
ISCARE, ISCARE, a.s. Martin, Helios, VšZP, Fakultná nemocnica Martin, ISCARE Praha, Helios Martin, CAR v Bratislave
Spomenuté produkty a metódy
IUI, IVF, ICSI, predĺžená kultivácia, darcovstvo spermií, spermiogram, prenatálne kontroly, genetika spermií (fragmentácia DNA), genetické testovanie embryí pred transferom, KET, hysteroskopia, OPU, stimulačný protokol a monitorovanie, Bravelle, Gonal, Puregon, Menopur, Pregnyl, Duphaston, Clostilgegytom, Decapeptyl, Synarel, Fostimon, Cetrotide, Diphereline
Miesta a osoby
Martin, Fakultná nemocnica Martin, Ružomberok, Bratislava, Helios (Martin), ISCARE Praha, Brno, Trenčín, Banská Štiavnica, Vyhne, Hodruša, Zvolen, Žiar, Kremnica, Banská Bystrica, Prievidza, Turčianske Teplice, MUDr. Stanislav Tomáš, p. Filová, Dr. Krajkovič, Dr. Gáťova, Hudecom
@crazybabenka - dráždim čo? 😉 ved ja som chcela už dnes ale ma stopol drahý lebo doteraz vždy po teste som mala pokazený celý deň, nálada na bode mrazu a nebola so mnou reč celý deň.... tak sa zhrozil že si idem kaziť víkend, tak som si ho nakoniec neurobila
koľajnice nečakám, buď tam nič nebude alebo malinký dušík 😉
ďakujem držkajte prsty!!!
Taký pekný dušík tiež poteší. 🙂 No a neskôr už tie poriadne koľajničky. 🙂
Sliver, ja ti to tak prajem. Ale teraz hlavne kľud, pekne relaxuj a mysli na pekné veci.
@sliver neboj....bude.....aj ja som najprv mala snehobiely testík.....a o pár dní.....koľajnice ako hrom 😀
@crazybabenka - ale ved som ešte v klude 😉 ešte je isto skoro
takže vííííírusíky sem!!!!!!
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@janemari
@crazybabenka
dakujem kočeny, ste úžasné že na mňa myslíte!!! ďakujem veľmi za podporu, lebo popravde som tu na to sama.... vie to iba môj drahý, v robote si myslia že mám zápal priedušiek a ani kamošky to nevedia 😉
tak všetky kočky tu na MK ste moja velikánska podpora!!!!
@sliver len potom sa ti bude blbo vysvetľovať, že zo zápalu priedušiek ti začalo rásť bruško 😀
@crazybabenka - to radšej ako ked som bola dvakrát na IUI a vtedy to vedeli všetci, vôbec to nebolo milé ked nič z toho, som to zle znášala a ešte oni do toho, ten ich "súcit"..... nie nie radšej budem bojovať sama s mojou láskou ;)
@sliver veď jasne....úplne ťa chápem.....o to lepšie sa ti bude hovoriť....že čakáš bábatko 😀 držkajte sa ....a hlavne hladkaj fazuľku
@sliver , ja ťa tiež úplne chápem... A čo koho do toho, čo ti je... A niekedy ten súcit vie liezť dobre na nervy.... Najmä ak je od ľudí, ku ktorým v podstate nemáš blízko, čo sa v práci často stáva... Tak pekne s manželíkom hladkajte bruško...nech bábo vie, že sa bude mať pri vás dobre 🙂
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@crazybabenka , @janemari - mňamky, ďakujem
@lasocka1 - držím prsty!!! najdôležitejší je potom relax a nohy hore 😉
@sliver jááááj ..... to si mi ani nemala písať..... 😉 veď ja hádam ani do rána od zvedavosti nebudem spať 😀 .......veď janemari má so mnou skúsenosť.....aký som ja zvedavec........tak ak budeš testovať.......tak ti prajem.....aby si tam našla tie najkrajšie dve koľajničky na svete 😉