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Stručné zhrnutie
- Dobrovoľné nemocenské poistenie treba mať zaplatené minimálne 270 dní pred termínom pôrodu, inak môže vzniknúť nároková medzera pri vyplácaní materskej; v diskusii uviedli príklad zvýšeného maximálneho vymeriavacieho základu z 1003,09 € na 1084,69 € a mesačný odvod 4,4 % z doplatenej sumy 336,69 € bol 14,81 €/mesiac.
- Pri snažení o dieťa účastníčky odporúčali suplementy kyseliny listovej, konkrétne Femibion800 s metafolínom, a spomínali bežné voľnopredajné prípravky ako Tantum Verde pri bolestiach hrdla.
- Ako techniky sledovania plodnosti boli v diskusii spomínané ovulačné testy (rovnako silné dve čiarky = LH vrchol), meranie bazálnej teploty (BT) a „ovulačný mikroskop“ na sliny; tiež sa riešili IVF a dôsledky predchádzajúcej sterilizácie.
Q: Ako funguje pripoistenie na nemocenské a aké podmienky treba splniť pre materskú?
A: Na Sociálnej poisťovni v diskusii odporúčali prihlásiť sa na dobrovoľné nemocenské poistenie najmenej 270 dní pred termínom pôrodu; ak je človek zamestnaný a platí nemocenské, štandardná materská je 55 % z hrubej mzdy, pripoistením sa dá dosiahnuť max. suma spomínaná v diskusii približne 531 € (16 000 Sk).
Q: Ktoré vitamíny alebo doplnky užívať pri snažení o dieťa?
A: V diskusii odporúčali kyselinu listovú, konkrétne Femibion800 s metafolínom; jedna účastníčka uviedla, že užívala Femibion dva mesiace a iná spomínala značku MedPharma pre základnú kyselinu listovú.
Q: Kedy začať platiť dobrovoľné nemocenské poistenie, koľko sa platí?
A: V diskusii radili začať platiť čo najskôr, ideálne niekoľko mesiacov pred plánovaným otehotnením; príkladný výpočet v diskusii: 4,4 % z rozdielu vymeriavacieho základu 336,69 € = 14,81 €/mesiac, diskutované bolo aj percento z minima (spomínané 8900 Sk → 4,4 % ≈ 220 Sk ako orientačný údaj).
Q: Aké testy a metódy použiť na sledovanie ovulácie?
A: V diskusii odporúčali ovulačné testy (LH testy, dve rovnako silné čiarky indikujú vrchol ovulácie), meranie bazálnej teploty (BT) a ovulačný mikroskop na sliny ako metódy na určenie plodných dní.
Q: Sú antibiotiká OSPAMOX bezpečné, ak môžem byť tehotná?
A: V diskusii bola spomenutá preskripcia OSPAMOX, otázka bezpečnosti v ranom tehotenstve zostala nezodpovedaná a odporúčali konzultovať konkrétny prípad s lekárom; jedna účastníčka poznamenala, že pred úplným napojením placenty na krvný obeh lieky teoreticky menej ovplyvnia embryonálny obeh, ale nejde o odborné medicínske potvrdenie.
Q: Čo robiť, ak je žena sterilizovaná a chce ďalšie dieťa?
A: Diskusia uvádzala, že po sterilizácii môže byť prirodzené otehotnenie nemožné a často sa v takých prípadoch rieši IVF; v téme bola konkrétne spomenutá konizácia krčka a následná potreba IVF.
Závery z diskusie
Zhoda
- Dobrovoľné nemocenské poistenie sa v diskusii považuje za užitočné pri plánovanom materskom príspevku a odporúča sa ho platiť dopredu.
- Pri snažení účastníčky často odporúčali užívanie kyseliny listovej, konkrétne Femibion800 s metafolínom.
- Ovulačné testy a meranie bazálnej teploty sú bežné odporúčané metódy na sledovanie plodných dní.
Sporné názory
- HAK (antikoncepcia): jedna skupina v diskusii považuje HAK za vhodnú pri akné a ľahšiu formu ochrany, druhá skupina tvrdí, že HAK „hormóny“ zhoršujú zdravie a spôsobujú komplikácie pri snažení.
- Časovanie pohlavného styku: niektoré účastníčky tvrdia, že prestávky medzi stykmi zlepšujú „regeneráciu“ spermií, iné uviedli, že taká pauza nebola pri nich rozhodujúca.
Otvorené otázky
- Sú antibiotiká typu OSPAMOX bezpečné pri možnom veľmi skorom tehotenstve?
- Dá sa doplatiť alebo „dorovnať“ nemocenské poistenie spätne v prípade predčasného pôrodu, ak chýbajú dni?
- Sú skoré subjektívne príznaky (pichanie v podbrušku, mierny výtok) spoľahlivým indikátorom uhniezdenia embrya?
Spomenuté značky a firmy
Femibion, MedPharma, Rapid Clear, Tantum Verde, OSPAMOX, Modrý koník, Sociálna poisťovňa, MUDr. Fruhwald
Spomenuté produkty a metódy
Femibion800 s metafolínom, kyselina listová, MedPharma (kyselina listová), Tantum Verde, OSPAMOX, Rapid Clear (test), ovulačné testy (LH testy), meranie bazálnej teploty (BT), ovulačný mikroskop na sliny, IVF, sterilizácia, konizácia krčka, vyvolávacie injekcie, pupalkový olej (pupalka), alchemilka
Miesta a osoby
Miskolc, Bratislava, Košice, Banská Bystrica (BB), Rakúsko, Anglicko, MUDr. Fruhwald
skoda len, ze sa meria len raz denne, co? cakat zakazdym dlasich 24 hodin.... 😒 😉 🙂
michelle, moje plodne dni boli 22. - 30.8. presne tieto dni sme boli na dovce 😎 skusim zajra rano zmerat teplotu zo srandy, lebo fakt to nemam s cim porovnat, ked som doteraz nemerala 😉
a ovu nevies na kedy padla? ak si pripocitas k tomu datumu 14-16 dni, v podstate ti moze vyjst pozitivny test... pozerala som grafy tehotenych na FF, babam vychadzali pozitivne testy uz aj na 10.-12.ty den po ovu... takze tyhc 14-16 by malo nieco byt vidiet... lepdie je to odvadzat odo dna ovu, teda ani nie od DC... lebo ovu je smerodatna. a tu mame kazda v iny den DC 🙂
rhodosbb ja si meriam 5 minut.. mam nastaveny budik na 7.00, to zacnem merat a dalsi budik mam na 7.05, to vyberam 😎
michelle, ty mas to pluvatko ako aj ja. Je mozne, ze mi nic neukazuje? ziadne mikroskopicke castice, ci co to je , mam cisty mikroskop 😕
ovu padla na 27.-29.8. takze k tomuto datumu, ked si pripocitam 14 - 16 dni, tak to vychadza na 10. - 12.8. a to necakam zrovna mrchu 😉
michelle, pustim slinu, pockam kym zaschne, zasvietim, zaostrim, pozeram a nic nevidim 😕 ked sa velmi silno pozeram, tak vidim take slabulinke haky baky, aj to len zo tri... ty dodrziavas to, ze pred testovanim sa nesmie jest a pit? ja si davam take polhodinove odstupy.
rhodosbb a este ma napadlo, ci to mas dobre zaostrene? ja mam inu znacku, tak neviem, ci sa to da aj na tvojom... skus pokrutit tou castou, kde su tie sosovky na ktore plujes... alebo... plujes na spravnu cast?
michelle 😀 hej, plujem na spravnu cast, tiez sa mi da zaostrovat 😀 budem skusat dalej a uvidim, ci sa tie obrazce budu nejako menit....
..pytala som sa preto, lebo ja som najprv plula zle 😕 😀
ale neico by si tam predsa mala mat. take gulicky aspon, ked teraz nemas plodne dni. asi si pred plutim vypalchujes usta?
tak potom uz neviem cim by to mohlo byt... ale teoreticky by ti teraz nemalo ukazovat papradie 🙂
rhodosbb no ale ot uzakoze co je? ja som si naplula a... mam papradie 😕 ale akoze riadne! ...este skusim poobede, ked budem doma a nebudem tie 2 hodky predtym nic jest... mozno je to tym... inac nechapem
michelle, tej tvojej prvej vete nerozumiem 😀 ale je to sranda, to papradie, co mas dalsiu ovu??
baby myslim ze bris ked uz bola tehu ukazovalo jej to papradie 😉 teda aaspon myslim ze nieco take hovorila a este sa tomu vtedy cudovala
baby tak som to nasla 😀
prva odpoved na to ako sa bris spraval mikroskop pri tehu:
michel teraz ma napadlo to flusatko ze ako funguje na tehotnych mam ho skusit???? lebo ja som zrejme mala ovu hned po mrche ako ukazovalo a v case ked sa uhniezdoval potapac tak som mala zase papradie
a potm dalej sa o tom bris zasa zmienovala na str.319 😉 ze ked je tehu tak je papradie
a brisiina odpoved zo strany 319 komu sa nechce hladat 😉
nadi ak si nesi ista ovulkou kup si aj ovu mikroskop ja ho mam a podla neho som mala ovu hnde po mrche co moze byt lebo 15 mi ukazovalo zase papradie ale to len preto ze sa uz vajko uhniezdovalo a odkedy som sa testla tak papradie tam je stale cize asi tak funguje a to je odpoved na michellinu otazku ako vlasne funguje v tehotenstve
nadi ja viem, pamatam sa na to. naplula som si este raz, po dlhsej dobe nejedenia a nepitia a uz ukazuje neplodne dni. podla mna papradie v tehotenstve zacne ukazovat az neskor, ked uz je vajko dostatocne uhniezdene, to zacne pomaly stupat hladina estrogenu (ten sa vlastne prejavuje v slinach ako papradie)... takze este si musime pockat...
ahojte kocky ano je to presne tak ako pise michell 😀 inak mam dobre spravi potapac je tam kde ma byt a rastie neuveritelne rychlo 😀 😀 😀 idem vas precitat 😉
briiiiis, gratulujem! 😵 ..tak to aby si si prepisaa v pase snz na tt... kolky si? 5-6tt?
michel nie 5-6 tt 😀 presnejsie 5 + 3 tt 😉
ano nadenka mozes 🙂 uz som ho videla na vlasne oci takze je to uz iste 😀
pre vas vsetke 😀 uz su oficialne potvrdene 😀 😀 😀
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tesim sa stebou bris tak ako to prebiehalo? 😉 😉 inak uz si ozelenena v tabulke a ako potencionalna tehu je oznacena rhodosbb 😀
bris takze som si tipla celkom presne aj 😉 ako vyzeralo babatko? bodecka malinka? srdiecko bilo? vsetko ok? 😵
kocky tak po 6 hodinach cakania ma konecne sestricka zobrala dnu 😝 lekar vysetril a spravil sono 😀 a bublina tam ako svet velka 😀 😀 😀 ale mrnusik ako spendlikova hlavicka 😉 no maval namna ze jee tam 😀 takze teraz sa uz len tesim 😉 a o tyzden idem zase po tehu knizku a foto drobceka dufam, ze budeme pocut uz aj srdiecko to uz budem v 6+3 tt takze relativne to je 7 tyzden 🙂no a mozete sa odteraz tesit ze virusiky tu budu kazdy den 😀TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
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to je krasne bris urcite je to nadherny pocit 😵 😵 takze uz si oficialna tehulka -prva majovka 😀 😉 😉
no ved ja sa na nic nespolieham 😉 beriem to vsetko ako pms a som rozhodnuta merat dalej lebo ma to zacalo bavit 😀