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Stručné zhrnutie
- Dobrovoľné nemocenské poistenie treba mať zaplatené minimálne 270 dní pred termínom pôrodu, inak môže vzniknúť nároková medzera pri vyplácaní materskej; v diskusii uviedli príklad zvýšeného maximálneho vymeriavacieho základu z 1003,09 € na 1084,69 € a mesačný odvod 4,4 % z doplatenej sumy 336,69 € bol 14,81 €/mesiac.
- Pri snažení o dieťa účastníčky odporúčali suplementy kyseliny listovej, konkrétne Femibion800 s metafolínom, a spomínali bežné voľnopredajné prípravky ako Tantum Verde pri bolestiach hrdla.
- Ako techniky sledovania plodnosti boli v diskusii spomínané ovulačné testy (rovnako silné dve čiarky = LH vrchol), meranie bazálnej teploty (BT) a „ovulačný mikroskop“ na sliny; tiež sa riešili IVF a dôsledky predchádzajúcej sterilizácie.
Q: Ako funguje pripoistenie na nemocenské a aké podmienky treba splniť pre materskú?
A: Na Sociálnej poisťovni v diskusii odporúčali prihlásiť sa na dobrovoľné nemocenské poistenie najmenej 270 dní pred termínom pôrodu; ak je človek zamestnaný a platí nemocenské, štandardná materská je 55 % z hrubej mzdy, pripoistením sa dá dosiahnuť max. suma spomínaná v diskusii približne 531 € (16 000 Sk).
Q: Ktoré vitamíny alebo doplnky užívať pri snažení o dieťa?
A: V diskusii odporúčali kyselinu listovú, konkrétne Femibion800 s metafolínom; jedna účastníčka uviedla, že užívala Femibion dva mesiace a iná spomínala značku MedPharma pre základnú kyselinu listovú.
Q: Kedy začať platiť dobrovoľné nemocenské poistenie, koľko sa platí?
A: V diskusii radili začať platiť čo najskôr, ideálne niekoľko mesiacov pred plánovaným otehotnením; príkladný výpočet v diskusii: 4,4 % z rozdielu vymeriavacieho základu 336,69 € = 14,81 €/mesiac, diskutované bolo aj percento z minima (spomínané 8900 Sk → 4,4 % ≈ 220 Sk ako orientačný údaj).
Q: Aké testy a metódy použiť na sledovanie ovulácie?
A: V diskusii odporúčali ovulačné testy (LH testy, dve rovnako silné čiarky indikujú vrchol ovulácie), meranie bazálnej teploty (BT) a ovulačný mikroskop na sliny ako metódy na určenie plodných dní.
Q: Sú antibiotiká OSPAMOX bezpečné, ak môžem byť tehotná?
A: V diskusii bola spomenutá preskripcia OSPAMOX, otázka bezpečnosti v ranom tehotenstve zostala nezodpovedaná a odporúčali konzultovať konkrétny prípad s lekárom; jedna účastníčka poznamenala, že pred úplným napojením placenty na krvný obeh lieky teoreticky menej ovplyvnia embryonálny obeh, ale nejde o odborné medicínske potvrdenie.
Q: Čo robiť, ak je žena sterilizovaná a chce ďalšie dieťa?
A: Diskusia uvádzala, že po sterilizácii môže byť prirodzené otehotnenie nemožné a často sa v takých prípadoch rieši IVF; v téme bola konkrétne spomenutá konizácia krčka a následná potreba IVF.
Závery z diskusie
Zhoda
- Dobrovoľné nemocenské poistenie sa v diskusii považuje za užitočné pri plánovanom materskom príspevku a odporúča sa ho platiť dopredu.
- Pri snažení účastníčky často odporúčali užívanie kyseliny listovej, konkrétne Femibion800 s metafolínom.
- Ovulačné testy a meranie bazálnej teploty sú bežné odporúčané metódy na sledovanie plodných dní.
Sporné názory
- HAK (antikoncepcia): jedna skupina v diskusii považuje HAK za vhodnú pri akné a ľahšiu formu ochrany, druhá skupina tvrdí, že HAK „hormóny“ zhoršujú zdravie a spôsobujú komplikácie pri snažení.
- Časovanie pohlavného styku: niektoré účastníčky tvrdia, že prestávky medzi stykmi zlepšujú „regeneráciu“ spermií, iné uviedli, že taká pauza nebola pri nich rozhodujúca.
Otvorené otázky
- Sú antibiotiká typu OSPAMOX bezpečné pri možnom veľmi skorom tehotenstve?
- Dá sa doplatiť alebo „dorovnať“ nemocenské poistenie spätne v prípade predčasného pôrodu, ak chýbajú dni?
- Sú skoré subjektívne príznaky (pichanie v podbrušku, mierny výtok) spoľahlivým indikátorom uhniezdenia embrya?
Spomenuté značky a firmy
Femibion, MedPharma, Rapid Clear, Tantum Verde, OSPAMOX, Modrý koník, Sociálna poisťovňa, MUDr. Fruhwald
Spomenuté produkty a metódy
Femibion800 s metafolínom, kyselina listová, MedPharma (kyselina listová), Tantum Verde, OSPAMOX, Rapid Clear (test), ovulačné testy (LH testy), meranie bazálnej teploty (BT), ovulačný mikroskop na sliny, IVF, sterilizácia, konizácia krčka, vyvolávacie injekcie, pupalkový olej (pupalka), alchemilka
Miesta a osoby
Miskolc, Bratislava, Košice, Banská Bystrica (BB), Rakúsko, Anglicko, MUDr. Fruhwald
michelle ved ty uz pomaly mozes planovat ako to povedat mm podla tych teplot je to velmi veeelmi nadejne 😉 🙂
sisa ty si tusim tiez rovnako ako ja 10DPO hm? 😉 😉
nadi, este nic nie je iste, je to 50:50. obavam sa, ze ked budem testovat rano, bude mm pri tom, tak mu hned pod nos strcim testik... asi nevydrzim byt ticho a pripravit si nejake speci oznamenie 😕 🙂 .......ci? ty to mas premyslene?
ja uz som to tu uz niekedy pisala ze bud napisem na brusko ahoj oci alebo ten test odfotim a hodim mu to do notebooku ako tapetu // 😀 😀 ale mozno nakoniec to bude uplne inak a ja budem z kupelne kricat a radovat sa na cele kolo ktovie 😉 😀
Caute babule, hlasim sa spat z dovosky na Slovensku....vidim, ze je tu plno nadejnych tehuliek, tak vsetkym drzim palce...u nas nic nove, stresy zo svadby svagrinky a plno vybavovenia, takze na keks a mm uz nebolo casu doooost dlho... 😢
nadi to je peknee, paci sa mi najma ten napad s pozadim na notebooku 😵 ..mozno sa necham inspirovat 😕
jani vitaaj medzi nami po dlhsom case. ako to s tebou vyzera?
ahojte babule,takze hlasim prichod od gynda 🙂 najprv ma pekne vytocil,lebo mal ordinovat od osmej a bolo 9:15 a este tam nebol 😠 tak som mu volala na mobil,ci bude dnes ordinovat a povedal,ze za chvilu je tam,ze trci v blave v zapche (az na to,ze tam mal byt uz pred hodinou,ale vsak neva,hlavne,ze dosiel). tak sa opytal preco som prisla a ja,ze minule ste este nevideli srdiecko,ze na kontrolu.a on,ze jasne,lahnite si.som sa cudovala,lebo mal dost dobru naladu na to,ze mi hovoril,ze robil nocnu a bol este za dcerou,lebo ju operovali tiez na nejaky gyn.problem 😒 tak zapol sono aaaaaa....konecne som pekne videla drobceka 😵 ma 2,3cm a co je hlavne - srdiecko bije 😵 😵 😵 vyzera to na zaciatok 10tt,teda nejak 9+2 😉 este som sa ho opytala,ci sa u neho neda vytlacit fotka a on,ze nie,ze to nema printer,ale ze mozem si to odfotit s mobilom alebo s fotakom - no a ja vyzbrojena som hned vytiahla fotak 😀 takze mam aj prve fotky - ziadna extra kvalita,lebo ked to chcete odfotit,tak tam behaju tie vlny-ciary,takze mam take ake sa podarili 😀 idem ich hodit do albumu 😉 no takze na moje pocudovanie bol dnes doki v pohode - uvidime dokedy...
sisa nastastie sa ta osoba,co ma tu objavila nepozna s nikym z nasej rodiny 😉
cheerlady to je super blahozelam 😵 😵 tak uz to budete moct povedat aj rodicom ked uz mas aj fotku 😉 😉
cheerly, gratulujem
nadi:22DC
michelle: so mnou biedne, tentokrat ziadna nahanacka za babom nebola, u svokry nebolo kde a strasne sme boli utraseny a unaveny z neustaleho cestovania....takze ja idem do dalsieho kola urcite...
teplotu som si nemerala, nebolo by kde poriadne a dnes som si zmerala a bola 36,9 ale ja meriavam o siestej a dnes som spala do deviatej...takze idem mrchu cakat
a stihla som gynekologa, mi povedal, ze vsetko ok, rocna prehliadka...tak ma potesil, ze aspon som zdrava 🙂
dakujeeeem 😵
nadi no mozme 😀 len musim pockat na ocina,aby bol doma aj on,lebo teraz je na lieceni 😒 ale mozno cez weekend dojde 😉
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janulka 2 dni pred ovu je fajn..ja som tiez tak otehotnela na 13 den sme mali..a ovulacia bola asi 15 alebo 16 ty den 😉
cheer - super!!!!!! moc sa tesim! 😵 fotky fazulky su krasne. nech su akokolvek nekvalitne, vzdy su to tie najkrajsie obrazky. a tie tvoje sa podla mna vydarili. parada, ze je vsetko ok a bilo srdiecko. viem si predstavit, ze ti padol velky kamen zo srdca. tak si uzi dnesny krasny den! 🙂
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inak neopovazte sa testovat! uz si nepamatate na duchov co sa tu objavili??? radsej pockajte nema to zmysel testovat ja som mala na 28 DC slabulinku ciarku musite to vydrzat 😉 je to stale lepsie ako si robit nadej s tieniku a potom byt skalmana a mat depku 😒 alebo spekulovat co sa mohlo stat ze ciarka bola a uz neni ☹ Takze pockajte do dna kym by mala prist ocakavana mrcha a kde nepride a teplota bude hore testujte 😀 😀 😀 drzim palce az vam mrcha nedorazi 😀 😀 😀 a ide spolu s mojou do krcmi kde sa na 9 m. odreaguju 😀 😀 sisa ta tvoja mrcha asi stiahla kdesi aj moju 😀 tak nech tam krasne ostanu 😀 😀 😀 😀
Ach baby, tak vam zavidim tie stresy z cakania 😀 Ja cakam akurat tak na ovulku a na poliakov, uz by mali prist 😀
Cheer, krasne fotecky 😵 😵
jani - fajn, ze u teba vsetko v poriadku, aspon nieco z dovolenky na slovensku 😉 a co ty vies, aj motyka moze vystrelit! pokial nepride mrcha, treba dufat, ze to vyslo! babatko potrebuje usmiatu maminu! 😵
no kocky ja len cakam ze tu padne coskoro lavina ciarociek 😀 😀 😀 tekze este raz virusiky 😀
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cherlady gratulujem malinke je zlatulinke 😉 ja dufam ze o tyzden aj ja budem vidiet srdiecko 😉
no tak buduci tyzden sa rozhodne pre viacere 😉 ci pojdeme do dalsieho kola alebo si to tie nase mrchy rozmysleli na 9 mesiacov s cheerinou,minkinou brisiinou a mrchou malejlady a budu tam niekde v krcme hooodne daleko popijat 😀 😀 😀
jani ja by som to tak beznadejne nevidela potapaci dokazu zazraky aj ked to bolo 13DC 😀
dakujeeeeem 😵 no to mi teda padol kamen zo srdca - ved naposledy som bola u dr.pred 3tyzdnami,az doteraz mal dovolenku, no a vtedy este nebolo srdiecko,tak som sa bala,ci je vsetko ok ☹ ale nastastie asi je 😵 som aj volala mm a ten bol hotovy,keby tam bol so mnou,tak sa tam asi rozplace 😅 😵
nadi, co ja viem, doki mi povedal, ze ovulacia prebehla, ale potom ziadna snaha nebola, az teraz v pondelok ☹
cherlady 3 tyzdne neni tak dlha doba 😉 a dokiho mas po ruke keby cosi nebolo v poriadku tak bud krvacas alebo mas silne bolesti a utekas na pohotovost 😉 takze sa nestresuj zbytocne co mam hovorit ja ked odchadzam na 3 tyzdne mimo slovenska a neviem kde je akka zdravotna starostlivost + jazykova bariera 😀 ale povedala som si ze ziadne negativa necitam 😉 ani dokiho sa nebudem pytat na mozne rizika radsej mu poviem ci by mi mohol dat nieco ako prvu pomoc ak by nahodou nastalo krvacanie ale ciganske karty ukazuju slniecko takze hadam nic zle sa nestane
bris no praveze som ho po ruke nemala,lebo mal 3tyzdne dofcu 😒 ale uz je chvalabohu spat. mm rozmyslal,ze by sme isli niekam na 4dni,lebo sme neboli ani na svadobnej ceste,ze do pariza napriklad,ale ja sa bojim - keby nieco,on nevie jazyk,tak sme sa dohodli,ze ak,tak skocim do prahy - tam som este nebola popozerat stare mesto 🙂 to ta obdivujem,ze si trufas az na 3tyzdne,ja som taky bojko 😔
cher aj ja som bojko ale kto sa boji nech nejde do boja 😉 co sa ma stat sa stane tak ci tak a ja to nijako neovplvnim a mozno v zahranici natrafim na lepsiu starostlivost ako tu 😒 no neviem hadam nebudem mat tu cet to zistovat a ang. dobre neviem no sesterka vie super po anglicky a potom aj moja sestra ktora bude hadam na fone 😉 manzel povedal ze tam je tolko slovakov ze sa lahko moze stat ze na dajaku natrafim 😉 a inak strach mam co by nie ale nepustam si ho k telu 😀
janulka moja sesterka je vestica no teda ona bola u vestici a ta jej povedala ze v min. zivote bola vestica 😀 ona a jej mama maju totiz take divne cierne znamienko este som take nevidela a magia ju zaujima ma to v krvi no vesti iba s anjelskycha ciganskych kariet tie zle jej vastica zakazala kupit ! aj ju upozornila ze ju budu lakat nmo musi im odolat a zatial odolava ja jejj verim jej mama mi este ked som cakala samka povedala ze to bude chalan a to este an sone nebolo vidiet a mala pravdu cela nasa rodina sa zhodla v tom ze co povie to sa stane 😉
michelle, grafik krasny 😉 slubujem, ze uz budem mysliet pozitivne 😀 😉 a lucim sa s vami, odchadzam na to skolenie papa babenky 🙂