Iscare vo FN Martin. Máte niekto skúsenosti?
Ahoj, máte už niekto skúsenosti s novozaloženým centrom v Martinskej FN ?
Stručné zhrnutie
- ISCARE v Martine poskytuje asistovanú reprodukciu vrátane IUI, IVF a ICSI a sídli vo Fakultnej nemocnici Martin (pavilón č. 6).
- V ISCARE Martin pracuje MUDr. Stanislav Tomáš (uvádzaný ako doc./docent) a v tíme je embryologička p. Filová; centrum ponúka aj prenatálne kontroly po úspešnom IVF.
- Ceny a úhrady sú kombináciou hradených a doplatkových výkonov: stimulačný protokol a monitorovanie môžu byť bez poplatku, IUI bolo v diskusii spomenuté 75 €, a doplatky za nepreplácané IVF výkony sa uviedli okolo 465 € plus ~214 € za lieky.
Najčastejšie otázky
Q: Ako sa objednať na konzultáciu do ISCARE Martin?
A: Na konzultáciu sa objednáva telefonicky cez recepciu centra; používatelia hlásili voľné termíny do niekoľkých dní až dvoch týždňov podľa momentálneho záujmu.
Q: Čo si zobrať na prvú návštevu (konzultáciu) v centre asistovanej reprodukcie?
A: Zvyčajne treba priniesť gynekologickú kartu/odpis z dokumentácie a spermiogram partnera; niektorí odporúčajú mať aj aktuálne výsledky vyšetrení.
Q: Koľko stojí IUI v ISCARE Martin?
A: V diskusii jedna užívateľka uviedla, že IUI ju stálo 75 €; ceny sa môžu líšiť podľa použitia stimulácie injekciami.
Q: Ako dlho trvá schválenie žiadosti o hradené IVF poisťovňou?
A: V príspevkoch sa spomínalo čakanie na schválenie žiadosti približne 5–6 týždňov.
Q: Aké doplatky môžem očakávať pri IVF v ISCARE?
A: Jedna pacientka uviedla doplatok cca 465 € za nepreplácané úkony (predĺžená kultivácia, ICSI dvoch vajíčok, darcovstvo spermií) a cca 214 € za lieky; niektoré základné stimulačné protokoly a monitorovanie mali byť bez poplatku.
Q: Ktoré stimulačné preparáty sa v diskusii spomínali a aký je medzi nimi rozdiel?
A: Spomínané lieky: Bravelle, Gonal, Puregon, Menopur, Fostimon, Pregnyl, Decapeptyl, Synarel, Cetrotide, Diphereline; Bravelle je opísané ako urofolitropín (FSH získaný z moču menopauzálnych žien) a Gonal/Puregon sú drahšie čiastočne kvôli podávaniu formou pera.
Q: Robia v ISCARE Martin genetiku spermií alebo embryí?
A: V diskusii sa uvádzalo, že laboratórium rieši vyšetrenia fragmentácie DNA spermií a že možné je pred transferom genetické testovanie embryí, avšak tieto vyšetrenia sú finančne nákladné.
Závery z diskusie
Zhoda
- ISCARE Martin je lokalizované vo Fakultnej nemocnici Martin (pavilón č. 6) a poskytuje IUI, IVF, ICSI a prenatálne kontroly po úspechu.
- MUDr. Stanislav Tomáš je v diskusii pravidelne uvádzaný ako hlavný lekár centra a pacientky oceňujú prístup personálu a embryologičky p. Filovej.
- Niektoré administratívne a technické položky (stimulačný protokol, monitorovanie) môžu byť v centre poskytované bez priameho poplatku.
Sporné názory
- Niektoré pacientky považujú Helios a iné CAR za viac „strojové“ alebo komerčné, zatiaľ čo ISCARE popisujú ako ľudské a individuálne; alternatíva je zvažovať Helios vs. ISCARE podľa preferencie prístupu.
- Otázka potreby predoperačných vyšetrení (RTG pľúc) má protiľahlé názory: niektoré pediatra/centre to nevyžadujú, iné požadujú kompletné predoperačné zázemie.
Otvorené otázky
- Koľko presne budú stáť konkrétne nepreplácané procedúry (predĺžená kultivácia, ICSI, genetické testovanie) pre ďalších pacientov vzhľadom na individuálne potreby?
- Ako presne ISCARE v Martine postupuje pri prípadoch opakovaných zlyhaní embryonálneho vývoja a kedy odporúča darcovstvo spermií/vajíčok?
Spomenuté značky a firmy
ISCARE, ISCARE, a.s. Martin, Helios, VšZP, Fakultná nemocnica Martin, ISCARE Praha, Helios Martin, CAR v Bratislave
Spomenuté produkty a metódy
IUI, IVF, ICSI, predĺžená kultivácia, darcovstvo spermií, spermiogram, prenatálne kontroly, genetika spermií (fragmentácia DNA), genetické testovanie embryí pred transferom, KET, hysteroskopia, OPU, stimulačný protokol a monitorovanie, Bravelle, Gonal, Puregon, Menopur, Pregnyl, Duphaston, Clostilgegytom, Decapeptyl, Synarel, Fostimon, Cetrotide, Diphereline
Miesta a osoby
Martin, Fakultná nemocnica Martin, Ružomberok, Bratislava, Helios (Martin), ISCARE Praha, Brno, Trenčín, Banská Štiavnica, Vyhne, Hodruša, Zvolen, Žiar, Kremnica, Banská Bystrica, Prievidza, Turčianske Teplice, MUDr. Stanislav Tomáš, p. Filová, Dr. Krajkovič, Dr. Gáťova, Hudecom
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@tessinka dám ti motiváciu.....keď ho budeš potrebovať.....tak ti vankúš venujem......takže šup šup 😀 😀 😀 😀
@crazybabenka , vďaka za veľkorysú ponuku... 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 hneď by som brala. Ale len si ho pekne nechaj, a po roku šup na ďalšie bábätko 🙂 .
A babule, vďaka za vírusíky.
@tessinka joj....to ani nehovor.....manžel chce hneď začať ako mi skončí šestonedelie 😀 ......mne aj toto jedno stačí 😀
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Ahojte.
@buby01sedela som oproti telke.
@tessinka Nooo,som opatrna. OPU nedopadlo moc dobre, velke foliky boli prazdne ☹ to bol sok! Tak vzali len male, no sance su mizive,cakame na zazrak....
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ahojte dievčatá
ďakujem všetkým ktoré si na mňa spomenuli.... samozrejme som na vás nezabudla ale bola som v nemocnici ☹ včera ma pustili, celý hyperstimul. ma zničil.... mala som strašné bolesti ale miminko si stráááážim a nikomu ho nedám!!!!
no žiadna sláva ako v nemocnici.... niektorí boli fajn no niektorí.... a bolo tam aj vela kočiek čo prišlo o mimčo.... to bolo pre mňa asi najhoršie....
ale už to je za mňou, ďalej vylyhujem a hladkám bruško 😉
čo tu nového? veľa ste popísali a nemám síl toľko sedieť pri PC aby som to prečítala, tak ak sa niekomu bude chcieť zhrnúť dva týždne 😉
držte sa a občas nakuknem
@sliver joj moja.....nestraš ma 😠 .....tak teraz pekne kľud a stráž drobčeka.....len pekne vylihuj....a nech ťa všetci rozmaznávajú......nech len všetko dobre dopadne ..... drže sa....budeme na vás s Paulínkou myslieť..... 😉
@sliver zlatko drz sa.ja som bola dnes zasa na odbery a 14.1.mame konzultaciu 🙂
Ahojte kocky. Dakujem Vam za podporu. 😉
Uz som vobec nedufala, a dnes rano mi volali,ze mam prist na transfer 😵 😵 vobec som nechapala,ale jeden silny bojovnik zabojoval a uz je v brusku.Idem si ho opatrovat ako v bavlnke. 😉
@sliver Super,ze je uz vsetko ako ma byt a ste doma. Pekne relaxujte 😉
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baby kedy chceli od vás v Iscare vyjadrenie či budete mať aj PK, hneď pri OPU alebo až na druhý deň keď sa vedelo koľko je embryi, resp, možno aj na tretí?????
@zlatanka30 áno, navrhol docent...