Sanatórium Helios. Aké máte skúsenosti?
Tak šup sem teda a čo povedať na začiatok asi len to, že z celého srdiečka želám všetkým Heliosáčkam, aby vám to vyšlo 😀 a verím, že vám to aj vyjde, cítim to 🙂
Stručné zhrnutie
- Sanatórium Helios vykonáva asistované reprodukčné postupy vrátane IVF, ICSI, OPU a KET s konzultáciami u lekára Krajka.
- Bežne používané lieky a protokoly pri stimulácii v diskusii zahŕňali Gonal, Decapeptyl, Menopur a trigger Pregnyl, a doplnky Calibrum BabyPlan alebo Femibion 800.
- Po neúspechoch IVF ženy v diskusii riešili ďalší pokus, pauzu alebo adopciu ako alternatívy, a riešenia zahŕňali laparoskopiu, hysteroskopiu a odstránenie polypu na maternici.
Q: Ako sa načasuje injekcia Pregnyl pred OPU alebo IUI?
A: Vagón diskusie uviedol štandardné načasovanie približne 36 hodín; príklad: injekcia podaná 8.10 → plánovaný termín približne 20:00 nasledujúceho dňa (36 h).
Q: Aké lieky sa v Heliose používajú pri stimulácii pred IVF/ICSI?
A: V príspevkoch sa spomínajú Gonal, Decapeptyl, Menopur a Pregnyl ako trigger; na podporu sa užívali doplnky Calibrum BabyPlan a Femibion 800, niektoré ženy menili prípravky podľa poradenstva.
Q: Čo znamenajú výsledky embryológie, ak lekár povie „8 vajec, 7 oplodnených“?
A: Diskutujúce uvádzali konkrétny príklad: 10 folikulov → 8 získaných vajec; z nich 7 oplodnených, pričom embryológ uviedol kvalitu (napr. 4 „veľmi zle“, 3 „ešte horšie“) a ďalšie rozhodnutia sa robia podľa kvality do nasledujúceho dňa alebo do dňa transferu.
Q: Kedy odporučia laparoskopiu alebo hysteroskopiu pri neúspechoch otehotnenia?
A: V diskusii gynekológovia odporúčali laparoskopiu pri podozrení na endometriózu a hysteroskopiu pri náleze polypu na maternici; jedna účastníčka uviedla, že polyp jej odstránili ako možnú príčinu neplodnosti.
Q: Aké alternatívy sa odporúčajú po viacerých neúspešných cykloch IVF?
A: V diskusii ženy zvažovali opakovať posledný pokus (napr. tretí pokus) alebo ísť do adopčného procesu; niektoré odporúčania zahŕňali psychologickú pauzu a posúdenie pečeňových či imunologických výsledkov pred ďalším cyklom.
Q: Ktoré výživové doplnky pre tehotné sa v diskusii odporúčali a prečo?
A: Spomínané prípravky boli Calibrum BabyPlan a Femibion 800; femibion 800 bol v diskusii popísaný ako obsahujúci látku, ktorá podľa účastníčky zlepšuje vstrebávanie kyseliny listovej.
Závery z diskusie
Zhoda
- Helios poskytuje IVF/ICSI, OPU a KET a pacientky konzultujú výsledky embryológie priamo s lekármi v zariadení.
- V stimulácii sa bežne používajú lieky Gonal, Decapeptyl, Menopur a trigger Pregnyl, a užívanie doplnkov ako Calibrum BabyPlan alebo Femibion 800 je bežné.
- Pri opakovaných neúspechoch sa odporúčajú vyšetrenia ako laparoskopie, hysteroskopie a odstránenie polypov ako možné kroky pred ďalším IVF.
Sporné názory
- Pokračovať v ďalších pokusoch IVF versus pustiť sa do adopcie ako primárny plán sú dve protichodné odporúčania; niektoré diskutujúce plánujú ešte posledný pokus, iné uprednostňujú adopciu.
- Používanie analgetík ako Ibalgin počas tehotenstva je rozdeľujúce; niektoré ženy sa mu vyhýbajú dlhodobo, iné ho občas používajú.
Otvorené otázky
- Koľko opakovaných cyklov IVF má zmysel z hľadiska úspešnosti pri konkrétnych nálezoch embryológie a spermiogramu?
- Aké presné príčiny vedú k vzniku „neživotaschopných“ embryí pri konkrétnych prípadoch (nízka morfológia spermií, kvalita vajíčok, imunologické faktory)?
Spomenuté značky a firmy
Sanatórium Helios,Lidl,TESCO,Maxx,Facebook,Modrý koník,Roland Garros
Spomenuté produkty a metódy
Pregnyl,Gonal,Decapeptyl,Menopur,Femibion 800,Calibrum BabyPlan,ICSI,KET,OPU,IVF,IUI,laparoskopie,hysteroskopia,odstránenie polypu na maternici,spermiogram,morfológia spermií,FSH,OHSS,adopcia,testy tehotenstva,ibalgín
Miesta a osoby
Žilina,Strečno,Prievidza,Helios,Krajko,Silvia
ahojte dievčatá, ja som dnes spala do 12.00h a ešte stále som nejaká vymletá. Musím sa trošku učlovečiť a potom sa možno znovu ozvem.
katy my sme mali planovany sexoš 😀
a dobre veru naplanovali 😉
aj ked zase musím dodať že u nas nebol až taky velky problem otehotnieť aj ked sa po poslednom tehu objavili // až po 10 mesiacoch ale to nieje až taka doba mojko u nas bol problem v udržani tehotenstva a v mojom super pravidelmom cykle a ovulacii -neovulacii tak nas z heliku vyslali na hematologiu a porobili nam ine vyšetrenia potrebne na odhalenie našho neuspechu a teraz je to zatial ok 😉
a inač pekny slniečkovy den prajem všetkym helinkam aj nehelinkam
dnes som taka potešena našla som niečo čo som dlhu dobu hladala a cez net sa mi to zdalo veeelmi komplikovane kupovať a v predajni mi to nechceli objednať a teraz som našla jeden internetovy obchod kde je celkom ok postup prace takže som vytešena 🙂
Ahojte ženušky,tehulky aj netehulky, ako sa máte?
ja vás tu občas prídem kuk, že čo nové, ale neprispievam, nie je zatím čím. 🙂
mohli by tehulky posielať častejšie vírusiky, nech mi ten KET-ík vyjde na 100000000% a nech už aj grckám. 😀
Ahojte 🙂
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dufam,že pomože 😉
diki survi, ham ham,uchmatla som si všetky, pošli ešte viac aj pre ostatné babule. lebo z tých už nič neostalo. 😀
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Domi tak to je super, silno drzim palceky, nech to tentokrat dotiahnes do zdarneho konca
Orsul, ja som sa cely mesiac venovala vybavovaniu stavebneho povolenia a papiere pre manzela a tak vselico a trosku som si potrebovala oddychnut od konika, niekedy ma prepadli take depky a potrebovala som prist na ine myslienky. Chcela som stimulkovat teraz od septemra ale este to nemam schvalene a akosi sa na to este necitim, tak snad na buduci mesiac, vies uz to bude tretie IVF a ani raz mi nezostal ani jeden mrazacik a aj embryjka,co mi vkladali boli vzdy akesi slabucke, tak teraz uzivam vitaminy a Aloe vera a kajanske korenie, tak nech sa to v tom mojom tele poriadne poupravuje.
A aj ostatnym vsetkym tehulkam a cakatelkam a stimulkam silno drzim paste 😉 😉 😉
katy, dufam, ze ti to najblizsie vyjde, to by boli krasne vianoce s // pod stromcekom 😅
aj my skusame aloe vera, nadajam s tym aj manzela, hoci si ideme vypocut nase diagnozy do heliosu az buduci tyzden. dovtedy sa aspon trosku telo zregeneruje, aspon dufajm 😎
surviver, dakujeme za tehu-virusiky, dufam, ze sa nejake na mna coskoro nalepia 😀 a samozrejme aj na vsetky ostatne 😵
ahojte, ja som si dnes konecne pospala. ked idem do poslednej nocnej.a zajtra a pozajtra budem spat zase v noci.
no sviste to budu mat riadne dopletene,chudaci.
ahojte tehuľky a snažilky 🙂 aj ja vám posielam tehu vírusíky, nech sa rýchlo uchytia 🙂
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ahojte, mne dnes po dlhej dobe bolo zle od žalúdka a celý deň som prespala. Tiež posielam vírusy.
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jeeej, ja si beriem prva, cochvila ich budem potrebovat ako sol 🙂 🙂 🙂
komarik ty spachtosko, vies ze ak si ospala v tehotenstve aj tvoje miminko bude spachtosko? Mne to tak hovorila mama, ze ona furt spala a ja som vraj bola fest kludna a furt som spala 😀 😀 😀
pekný večer prajem všetkým...
orsul, ďakujem, že na mňa nezabúdate, len som trochu sa snažila učlovečiť bytík, tak som sa ani k PC nedostala, ale som vás statočne dnes dočítala, tak sa už polepším a budem sa častejšie hlásiť
kuspi, som rada, že ťa tu po dlhej dobe zas vidím, a že ste ralatívne ok, aj napriek občasným nevoľnostiam, ale to aby ste vedeli, že malá sa má k svetu a to kopkanie si pekne užívajte 😉
komarik...dufam, že tebe už zas po dnešku bude až do konca len a len fajne, žiadne žalúdočné problémy a tak, tak sa držkaj
mzuzka...tiež si myslím, že by si sa mala opatrovať a tie nočné obmedziť, lebo aj keď máš pocit, že sa cítiš fajn, nemusia to tak cítiť aj svištíci...tam v UK im ti neva, že si tehu a robíš nočné...?? aj keď sa nenarobíš, je to predsa len prevrátený biorytmus a keď sa narodia, tak budú buntošiť celé noci, tak bacha 😅 😕
no a pre zasvatené...dnes som konečne dostala výsledky z konizácie, tak je to všetko ok, nebolo to ani také zlé, ako to vyzeralo a vraj už aj sexíkovať možme a snažiť sa, tak hádam sme to ešte nazabudli, hihi 😀 😀
a osobitne jasnačka zdravím a bozkávam Silvinku a dúfam, že tie veľké kukadlá už sú vyliečené 🙂
ps: a rýchlo píšte, lebo sa nám to tu nejako roztiahlo, tak nech sme šup šup na ďalšej stránke
ahoj kamka, no veru, aj mne vadí táto roztiahnutá strana, takže ešte raz vírusíky:
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no tak ja este raz vysvetlenie k tym mojim nocnym. zial pre mna su nocne mensie zlo ako denne. v noci sme v banke akurat asi 20 cleaneri, a jeden nocny manager, ktory je zalezeny v office. pre mna to znamena, ze sa mozem
zasivat, lebo supervisorka je slovenka a ta mi to toleruje. cize po kazdej hodine cca 15-20min sedim.
cez den je banka plna bankarov (jedno posch cca 500 ludi), ktori cestuju hlavne do USA a odtial si nosia svinsku chripku, cize prichadzas priamo do styku s nimi. takisto supervisori a asi 3ja denni manageri, ktori ta len tak sediet nenechaju. takze v dennej sa viac narobis, menej zarobis a este na teba ciha svina chripka. a teraz tu v UK avizuju na koniec septembra a zaciatok oktobra expanziu.
cize po rozhovore s hlavnou managerkou, sme dospeli k tomu, ze nocna je mnesie zlo pre deti. a plus nastupujem posledny rok do skoly od 16teho, cize by som po robote unavena musela ist rovno do skoly. takto ked aj nie vela , ale co to pospim, poodychujem a v skole vladzem ako tak rozmyslat.
kamka, som rada, ze si s tym krckom takto fajne dopadla, uz sa tesim kedy budes zase s odhodlanim pokracovat v snazilkovani. ja pojdem na operaciu po porode,tak len dufam, ze to vydrzi aspon do toho februara.nech sa sviste nenarodia prilis skoro. ten sexik neboj, nezabudli ste, aj nam to celkom fajn slo po 7mich mesiacoch 😀 a to sme sa este k tomu trocha bali, kvoli svistom a mysleli si ze radsej az do porodu nic, ale krajko nariadil ked skonci spinenie ,prekrvit maternicu, aby vysli zrazeniny, tak co krajko povie pismo svate a bolo to suuuuper
mozno ani nebudes potrebovat IVFko. ved vies ze tu sa zazraky stavaju, len im treba verit.
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strana prevrat sa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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este nic?
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tak aspon berte svistikovske virusiky
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no ja sa pomaly idem chystat do tej mojej poslednej tento tyzden, a samozrejme strazit vase sny. ved kto vam ich
bude strazit potom, ked sa svisti narodia? tak si to uzivajte teraz 😀
krasne snicky helinky, snazilky tehulky aj mamulka. hadam uz silvinka da viac pospat.
mzuzka...tak sa teším, že si nám to tak pekne objasnila tú tvoju prácičku a dávam ti veru za pravdu, že takto to je lepšie pre všetkých zúčastnených, tak sa hlavne moc neprepracuj a opatruj svištíkov 😉
no a s tým snažením...vraj netreba čakať 6 mesiacov, ako hovorili v nemocke, že keby sa zadarilo, tak by to bolo fajn a nevadilo by to ani tomu krčku, tak verím, že k tomu ivf sa ani nedostaneme 😅
tak pa a myslím na teba
a ostatným jasne že dobrú noc prajem
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aaaale ešte stale sme tu?
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Tak to je tehuvirusikov, troska vam spapam aj ja, najradsej by som bola, keby to islo aj samo.
Dannielka03 tak to by bolo naozaj perfis, krajsi darcek som v zivote nedostala ako by boli // pod stromcekom
Kamka super, tak to dopre dopadlo, hor sa do snazenia 😉
Mzuzka tak peknu nocnu, nech to rychlo ubehne
ostatnym dobru nocku
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hej kuspit, moje prve 🙂 No uvidím čoho všetkého sa ešte dožijem ☹