Sanatórium Helios. Aké máte skúsenosti?
Tak šup sem teda a čo povedať na začiatok asi len to, že z celého srdiečka želám všetkým Heliosáčkam, aby vám to vyšlo 😀 a verím, že vám to aj vyjde, cítim to 🙂
Stručné zhrnutie
- Sanatórium Helios vykonáva asistované reprodukčné postupy vrátane IVF, ICSI, OPU a KET s konzultáciami u lekára Krajka.
- Bežne používané lieky a protokoly pri stimulácii v diskusii zahŕňali Gonal, Decapeptyl, Menopur a trigger Pregnyl, a doplnky Calibrum BabyPlan alebo Femibion 800.
- Po neúspechoch IVF ženy v diskusii riešili ďalší pokus, pauzu alebo adopciu ako alternatívy, a riešenia zahŕňali laparoskopiu, hysteroskopiu a odstránenie polypu na maternici.
Q: Ako sa načasuje injekcia Pregnyl pred OPU alebo IUI?
A: Vagón diskusie uviedol štandardné načasovanie približne 36 hodín; príklad: injekcia podaná 8.10 → plánovaný termín približne 20:00 nasledujúceho dňa (36 h).
Q: Aké lieky sa v Heliose používajú pri stimulácii pred IVF/ICSI?
A: V príspevkoch sa spomínajú Gonal, Decapeptyl, Menopur a Pregnyl ako trigger; na podporu sa užívali doplnky Calibrum BabyPlan a Femibion 800, niektoré ženy menili prípravky podľa poradenstva.
Q: Čo znamenajú výsledky embryológie, ak lekár povie „8 vajec, 7 oplodnených“?
A: Diskutujúce uvádzali konkrétny príklad: 10 folikulov → 8 získaných vajec; z nich 7 oplodnených, pričom embryológ uviedol kvalitu (napr. 4 „veľmi zle“, 3 „ešte horšie“) a ďalšie rozhodnutia sa robia podľa kvality do nasledujúceho dňa alebo do dňa transferu.
Q: Kedy odporučia laparoskopiu alebo hysteroskopiu pri neúspechoch otehotnenia?
A: V diskusii gynekológovia odporúčali laparoskopiu pri podozrení na endometriózu a hysteroskopiu pri náleze polypu na maternici; jedna účastníčka uviedla, že polyp jej odstránili ako možnú príčinu neplodnosti.
Q: Aké alternatívy sa odporúčajú po viacerých neúspešných cykloch IVF?
A: V diskusii ženy zvažovali opakovať posledný pokus (napr. tretí pokus) alebo ísť do adopčného procesu; niektoré odporúčania zahŕňali psychologickú pauzu a posúdenie pečeňových či imunologických výsledkov pred ďalším cyklom.
Q: Ktoré výživové doplnky pre tehotné sa v diskusii odporúčali a prečo?
A: Spomínané prípravky boli Calibrum BabyPlan a Femibion 800; femibion 800 bol v diskusii popísaný ako obsahujúci látku, ktorá podľa účastníčky zlepšuje vstrebávanie kyseliny listovej.
Závery z diskusie
Zhoda
- Helios poskytuje IVF/ICSI, OPU a KET a pacientky konzultujú výsledky embryológie priamo s lekármi v zariadení.
- V stimulácii sa bežne používajú lieky Gonal, Decapeptyl, Menopur a trigger Pregnyl, a užívanie doplnkov ako Calibrum BabyPlan alebo Femibion 800 je bežné.
- Pri opakovaných neúspechoch sa odporúčajú vyšetrenia ako laparoskopie, hysteroskopie a odstránenie polypov ako možné kroky pred ďalším IVF.
Sporné názory
- Pokračovať v ďalších pokusoch IVF versus pustiť sa do adopcie ako primárny plán sú dve protichodné odporúčania; niektoré diskutujúce plánujú ešte posledný pokus, iné uprednostňujú adopciu.
- Používanie analgetík ako Ibalgin počas tehotenstva je rozdeľujúce; niektoré ženy sa mu vyhýbajú dlhodobo, iné ho občas používajú.
Otvorené otázky
- Koľko opakovaných cyklov IVF má zmysel z hľadiska úspešnosti pri konkrétnych nálezoch embryológie a spermiogramu?
- Aké presné príčiny vedú k vzniku „neživotaschopných“ embryí pri konkrétnych prípadoch (nízka morfológia spermií, kvalita vajíčok, imunologické faktory)?
Spomenuté značky a firmy
Sanatórium Helios,Lidl,TESCO,Maxx,Facebook,Modrý koník,Roland Garros
Spomenuté produkty a metódy
Pregnyl,Gonal,Decapeptyl,Menopur,Femibion 800,Calibrum BabyPlan,ICSI,KET,OPU,IVF,IUI,laparoskopie,hysteroskopia,odstránenie polypu na maternici,spermiogram,morfológia spermií,FSH,OHSS,adopcia,testy tehotenstva,ibalgín
Miesta a osoby
Žilina,Strečno,Prievidza,Helios,Krajko,Silvia
Orsulka simonko bol uplne v pohode este aj pred operaciou ja uplne chora na nervy. Revala som ako tur. Este ze tam bol aj moj manzel a pred operacky siel on snim ja by som sa tam asi zrutila. Ale vravel ze ked maleho brali tak sa drzal polovicky za nohu uz sa bal ze on tam nejde. Aj manzel prisiel na izbu vyrevany. To cakanie bolo besne. A ked ho doniesli este v zbytkovej anasteze boze to bol pohlad chuda dieta. Nemozete mu dat jest ani pit. a potom nam zacal vracat s anestezy a s krvicky co mu zatiehla do bruska. Tak bol na infuzkach. Na noc tam ostal snim manzel mna by tam asi museli kriesit resp odrodit stych nervou tak som sla domov. Do vecera este vracal tak mu museli dat dalsie infuzky v noci aj antb. dnes je ale uz doma sice ho nic neboli ale ma taky divny hlasok no musi sa to vyliecit. ALe znasal to vsetko hrdinsky. 😉
romy skus este aj Tesco teraz su tam velmi dobre veci a take male dupacky aj cena je super.chod tam nakupovat aj tam som dost veci kupila
domcek.......no jo zlato.....niekedy su ozaj rodičia na tom horsie ako deti......ale tak chvala bohu, už ho mas doma a budes aj ty kludnejsia....
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no domcek - chudatko malé to je hrozne ked toto musia rodicia s dietatom absolvovat - juj az mi stislo srdce.
domka,ale zas mate to za sebov
je to zlozite ,ked dieta ti beru na operacku a nevies co sa tam deje.
mala by si mu dat nieco za to jeho hrdinstvo.mas super dieta,ked nedal na sebe vediet ako sa boji velmi
Tak to teda. No ale ako vravis hlavne ze je uz doma.
Tak teraz lezka a pozera rozpravky, tato zaspal lebo bol koli nemu hore celu noc. A ja sa idem tiez trosku vyvalit.
Potom este pridem pokvakat.
ahojte heliosacky
Wolfi mi prave pisala, ze je ok, ze vraj to bolo cistenie zo stimulky, ze sa to stava, ma aj fotecku a prida ju neskor, isli sa niekam napapat. TAK MI ODLAHLO!!🙂
wolfi taka som rada a teraz budes lezat a hore nohy.davaj si velmi pozor na seba.vravela som ver bublinke ona vie co je dobre a ty sa onu teraz staraj a nemysli na zle veci.je to jasne
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krasna sprava alicka...dik 🙂))))
gratulujeeeeeeeeeeeeem !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dalsia spravička..........
alicka...velmi pekne........a silniet buduuuuuuuuuuu....ked sa ti objavuje už od 4 dna..... tak super
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ahojte
baby dakujem za drzanie palcov, gulko bombulko tam je taky ako ma byt, a to krvacanie ze to sa cisti maternica po stimulke, ze uz tam ziadne krvne zrazeniny nie su takze by to uz nemalo byt.
fotka je v albume
kontrola buduci tyzden vo stvrtok
orsulka dakujem, prvy krat som tiez nasla // a potom slabli... no som fakt zvedava🙂
wolfi tak to som rada až ma dvíhalo zo stoličkyako som čitala tvoj príspevok tak super že je to ok asrdiečko ste počuli?
domcek fu to mi je luto ale hlavne že už mate potom
ja si pamätamked ma doniesli z operačkytak som sa triasla zimou ako keby som mala epilepticky zachvat ale nevedela som to ovplyvniť na duhu operaciu som ich pytala či sinemožem aspon ponožky dať tak že nie 😠
orsulka, teraz si fakt uz na rade
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špeciálne pre teba
orsulik dakujem
a specialne prve oficialne virusiky ......... len a len pre teba
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no ste to tu riadne zavírusili, šak sa tu musím presúvať hore dole...no nič
píšte píšte, nech sme na ´dalšej stránke...
alic...gratulácia...super, ja som ti hovorila, že 17.11. je dobrý dátum 😀
mne sa už nič nechce......a okrem ineho ani neviem prečo, ja mám dnes piatok........ 😀
romy....trosku mi to tu vpraci komplikuje život, lebo vsade davam ine datumy!!! 😀
kuspitka, urcite aj ja tam budem nakupovat - lenze ovcas ked idem okolo tych obchodov, kde je vsetko take malicke a farebne tak to proste nejde nekupit aspon nieco