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Milé kamarátky snažilky, keďže sme dosiahli magických 10 000 príspevkov, zakladám ďalšie pokračovanie Ružového sloníka s prianím, aby nám všetkým priniesol tehulkovské brušká, krásne bábätká a utužovanie našich virtuálnych snažilkovských priateľstiev 🙂
Stručné zhrnutie
- Snaženie o tehotenstvo sa v diskusii riešilo pravidelným sledovaním bazálnej teploty (BT), používaním ovulačných mikroskopov a online grafov na FertilityFriend (príklady grafov vo vlákne: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/17dfaa, http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1c7d1a).
- V diskusii boli menované hormonálne podpory a lieky používané pri nemožnosti otehotnieť: Duphaston na úpravu cyklov a Utrogestan ako vaginálna luteálna podpora, pričom Utrogestan mohol podľa účastníčok udržiavať zvýšenú BT.
- Reprodukčné postupy spomínané vo vlákne zahŕňali IVF/KET (prenesenie embryí), odbery krvného HCG na potvrdenie tehotenstva (v jednom prípade plánované volanie do laboratória o 13:30) a plánované vyšetrenia ako amniocentéza („amnio“) približne za dva týždne.
Q: Ako doma spoľahlivo sledovať ovuláciu?
A: Bežne sa kombinujú meranie bazálnej teploty (BT), pozorovanie cervikálneho hlienu, ovulačné testy a ovulačný mikroskop; v diskusii používali online grafy na FertilityFriend (príklady URL: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/17dfaa, http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1c7d1a).
Q: Aké lieky sa používajú na podporu cyklu a čo ovplyvňujú?
A: V diskusii sa uvádzali Duphaston na úpravu/dopĺňanie cyklov a Utrogestan vaginálne ako luteálna podpora; účastníčky hlásili, že Utrogestan môže udržiavať zvýšenú bazálnu teplotu.
Q: Ako sa potvrdzuje tehotenstvo po KET/IVF?
A: Potvrdenie sa robí krvnými testami HCG v laboratóriu; v jednom prípade si účastníčka dohodla telefonát do laboratória na výsledok o 13:30 v daný deň.
Q: Kedy možno očakávať ovuláciu pri nepravidelných cykloch?
A: V diskusii boli konkrétne príklady: ovulácia sa u niektorých vyskytla okolo 16. dňa cyklu, zatiaľ čo iné mali cykly až 37 dní, čo zdôrazňuje veľké individuálne rozdiely.
Q: Čo je KET a koľko embryí môžem mať vo „zálohe“?
A: KET je kryotransfer embryí (prenesenie mrazených embryí) po IVF; jedna účastníčka uviedla, že má „3 naše embryjka a 3 polonaše“ uložené po predchádzajúcom pokuse.
Q: Čo si pripraviť pred gynekologickým vyšetrením alebo vyšetrením plodnosti?
A: Odporúčané sú dokumenty o predchádzajúcich operáciách a výsledky relevantných laboratórií; partner by nemal užívať antibiotiká jeden mesiac pred vyšetrením spermiogramu (spomenuté vo vlákne).
Závery z diskusie
Zhoda
- Sledovanie plodnosti kombinuje viac metód (BT, mikroskop na hlien/salínu, ovulačné testy) a mnohé ženy používajú FertilityFriend na vizualizáciu grafov.
- IVF/KET je v komunite bežná cesta po opakovaných neúspechoch a potvrdenie sa robí krvnými HCG testami v laboratóriu.
Sporné názory
- Niektoré účastníčky považujú ovulačný mikroskop a BT za spoľahlivé, iné hlásia, že tieto metódy v nepravidelných cykloch nie sú spoľahlivé a neukážu ovuláciu.
- Niektoré ženy plánujú okamžitý ďalší KET po neúspechu, iné uprednostňujú pauzu a doplnenie vyšetrení (cytológia, kultivácie, spermiogram).
Otvorené otázky
- Prečo sa v niektorých cykloch objavujú anovulačné obdobia napriek symptómom (bolesť v podbrušku, vajíčkový hlien)?
- Ktorá kombinácia domácich metód (BT, mikroskop, testy) je najspoľahlivejšia pri veľmi nepravidelnom cykle?
- Ako zvýšiť šance na úspešnú implantáciu po KET u žien s opakovanými neúspechmi?
Spomenuté značky a firmy
FertilityFriend, Gynfiv, Bleskovky, ICQ, Skype, Ask
Spomenuté produkty a metódy
Duphaston, Utrogestan, bazálna teplota (BT), ovulačný mikroskop, ovulačné testy, KET, IVF, amniocentéza (amnio), krvný HCG test, cytológia (ster na cytologiu), spermiogram, IVF injekcie/medikácia, Algifen, Ibalgin, energetický nápoj Shok, používanie online grafov (FertilityFriend)
Miesta a osoby
Košice, Tahanovce
Ahojte je tu niektooo 😅
U nás je hrozné počasie, zima jak na jeseň. Ja chcem 30-tky teploty 😎
ale heeeeej,
si robim srandicku,,, jasne povedzme buduci tyzden utorok o 19tej alebo 20tej ci inz cas?
ja budem doma a mam tu len svokru na navsteve tak to je jedno 😉
Ahojte, ano, pocasie je strasne, ale tu na vychode, tie zaplavy, co vcera ukazovali v telke 😔 . My konkretne sme na takom kopci, cize nas chvalabohu obislo.
Scar, ano, kludne mozeme buduci utorok cca o 19 - 20 hodine, ak suhlasia aj ostatne babenky. 😵
Ahojte babeky, aj ja sa rada pridam, pokec....chybate mi..uz som na konikovi nebola hadam vyse mesiaca....nejak nestiham 😅
pridem sem omrknut kedy teda, nech vas nepresvihnem... 😉 🙂 😵
ok baby aj ja sa pridam ak ma priatel pusti ku compu 🙂 tak ked vasho casu o 7 mojeho o 6 tak to by som malastihnut lebo vtedy akurat chodim domov z roboty ,tesim sa na VAS
aj sem vam par vtisnem chytajteeee
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len duuufam ze pomozu..pozavarajte a dobre uskladnite 😀
ahojte..
mozem sa k vam aspon na chvilku v utorok pridat aj ja, aj ked este dlho nebudem snazilka??? 😔
hm?
lauritka...nech sa na teba nachytajúúúúúúú 😵 😵 😵
janinko, jasne, ze sa mozes pridat....tesssssiiiiiim sa na vaaaaas velmi. uz mam na monitore nalepene, ze utorok o siedmej. manzel snoril, ze co to je 😀 😀 , ze kam idem....radsej som bola pssst...
Tesim sa na vas vsetky.... 😵 😵 😵 , dufam, ze popiseme niekolko x-stran.... 😉
ahojte snazilky, no pozeram, ze mate virtualne rande. Skoda, ze nemam doma net, takze sa nepripojim. Ale aspon Vam zelam prijemny pokec a uspesne snazenie, aj za mna 😉
čaf gooooooooooooooooooooogleeeeeeeeeeeee, ešte si tuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu????????????
ahojte babule... dosla som vas pozdravit a poslat par virusov, aby ste vecer mali plodnu debatku 😉
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hmm, a nie je lepsie vecer? 😕